Hi,


Just one question, which of the "parts" where we had trouble still exists? I mean where we had to extend the logo guidelines, cloud became very fast Atomic and looking to this logo it looks different to the other ones. The cloud version before matched much more to the other ones.

So why should we change a well established branding for some things that are shorter in life? I mean if I look around me, if I go the parking area of a university I definitely find some bike with an Fedora sticker and they actually know - thats Fedora and what it is and how long it took me to get to this point. With some of the points it would be so serious changes that I would have to begin at zero. Not to mention it would take us years, to equip all Ambassadors new.

So when there shall be done something it has to be carefully and I dont see that coming


br gnokii


Am 05.10.2018 um 17:49 schrieb Máirín Duffy:
Hi Onyeibo,

It's the Fedora logo itself that has issues. The other logos I mentioned were just something that had to be discussed in updating our logo docs that brought up the topic of changing the Fedora logo.

Cheers,
~m

On October 5, 2018 3:36:42 AM EDT, Onyeibo Oku <onyeibo@schemefusion.com> wrote:
I fail to appreciate the points in this discussion without visuals
Can someone point me to he offending graphics? URLs please?

Regards
Onyeibo

On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 22:05 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
What do you think fellow, design team members? Full disclosure, I brought this up to Matthew yesterday when we were discussing the ticket on converting the logo guidelines to asciidoc. We realized they have to be updated with some of the new stuff we've been working on (Fedora IoT logo, Fedora CoreOS logo, etc). And I complained about how I wish I could update the logo too :-) I think a lot of us have struggled with the inability to do one color and the off-centeredness of the bubble. (And wouldn't an open source font be nice??) ~m Sent from my phone, not an iphone. -------- Original message -------- From: "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7@gmail.com> Date: 10/4/18 5:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh On 10/4/18 5:02 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Our "freedom + infinity + voice" logo is awesome -- but it also has
some
problems: * It doesn't work well at small sizes * It doesn't work at all in a single color * The "voice" bubble means it's hard to center visually in designs * The Fedora wordmark is based on a non-open-source font * I'm tired of explaining that it's not Facebook As much as I love our "classic" logo, I think it may be time for a
refresh.
It's not just about problems -- as we're getting into Year 15, and
five
years (!) of Fedora.next, our editions strategy is drifting away
from
"Fedora + logical thing" (like "Fedora Server" or "Fedora Cloud")
into more
unique brands like "Fedora CoreOS" or "Fedora Silverblue". As I
said at
Flock, the important thing about Fedora to me is the _people_ — I'd
like
"Fedora" to be more assocated with the project and the community
rather than
our software artifacts. I'd love to have a logo which can work as a "community umbrella". What do you think?
This logic makes sense to me. I'm also open-minded to a 2018 refresh. There should probably be some level of engagement with the Fedora Design Team on this too. It is too bad tattoos aren't as easy to update as Fedora. :)
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