On 07/06/2009 06:11 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Was wondering if anybody had thoughts about this - I put a bit of
into it and haven't gotten any feedback yet! :)
Ops! It was a long message with a lot of intense content, so I scheduled
it "later" and then forgot about it...
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 20:09 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> - Mortality vs Immortality - Byzantine art& culture flourished over
> 1000 years (330-1453) and is still known of today - We can relate this
> to Fedora - Fedora does not try to only look 'cool' on the surface and
> not have much substance underneath; Fedora is very concerned about
> quality and doing the right thing. Fedora hopefully is at the forefront
> of promoting a culture/philosophy and producing a quality system that
> will bring order and the right way forward. A few ideas on representing
> this: have a simple& transparent (or not quite drawn-in) subject grow
> in complexity& depth and become more opaque maybe. Or go from weak to
> saturated colors and/or values. The message would be along the lines of
> Fedora's hopeful grasp towards greatness/eternity.
Something like tatica's blue mosaic, well defined in the center and
fading towards the edges. Or the coin idea some were talking about, also
can be fading in/out.
We need the strong subject/metaphor for greatness/eternity.
> - The natural/impermanent/imperfect vs.
> building on the above theme... Yeats makes reference to Byzantine
> Emperor Theophilos' singing mechanical golden birds (he also had
> mechanical golden lions as well, hmmm... :) ) I feel like themes that
> deal with technology vs nature usually pose technology in the 'bad guy'
> light and nature in the 'good guy' light, so it might be interesting to
> send a message that poses technology (Fedora) as an ally of nature (the
> people using Fedora) to make it better (to improve Fedora users' lives).
> Visually this could maybe take a steampunk bird form hehe.
Paul's idea about vines resonate with me, when I was playing with the
steampunk concept for F10 I was thinking "the next one may be something
more connected to the nature with vines and stuff".
We are going far from the "simple, vector" target but I can't stop
thinking about a being half mechanical (steampunk?) half organic (vines?)
> - Order from Chaos - Constantine was known for bringing order to
> chaos of the Roman empire at the time he began rule and Constantinople
> seems to have served as a central hub / symbol of that order. Perhaps
> Fedora is the Constantinople to the chaos of crappy, proprietary
> software. The message would be that open source software is inevitable
> and is the way forward to order and progress.
There is great potential in this and I think we may find a way to
approach it with something simple. Order is simplicity.
On a second thought, reading the link above, isn't the "Cathedral and
the Bazaar" exactly the opposite, with the proprietary development model
an ordered cathedral and FOSS a chaotic bazaar? Maybe we talk about a
new king of "order", not one imposed from the above, but one growing
naturally from the foundations?
> - Liberation through enlightenment - '... Consume my heart
> with desire... gather me Into the artifice of eternity.' Liberation of
> the soul from worldly desires... liberation of the software and more
> generally culture from worldly desires...? worldly desires = closed
> firmware and patented codecs? hehe
And the sinners can see the light and redeem themselves... we are
*almost* religious here :p
Or, by contrary, we are anti-religious: enlightenment breaking the dogma
and bringing personal and collective freedom.
I think we may try to illustrate this in a simple way with an
eruption/explosion of light.
> - Unity/Coming together to make something great - and could quite
> be communicated with the golden mosaic designs already being discussed -
> alone one tile is nothing special, but the tiles together can make a
> beautiful piece of art. Along similar lines, Constantinople itself was a
> trading center where many cultures intersected.
This one is also good, a distro is *a lot* about integration and more
than the sum of its parts.
And we have a lot of stories to tell about the combination of our four
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