On 12/17/2010 03:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
>>
>> I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like
>> the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and
>> keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The
>> issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the
>> GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution.
>
> Can you name at least one other *relevant* distro that will use the same
> background as default? Especially if they know this may be *our* default?
I'll certainly talk to the OpenSuSE and Debian GNOME maintainers and try
to make convince them to make the same choice. I'm much more likely to
succeed in that request if I have the support of the Fedora design team
already lined up. And I really don't think how we configure our desktop
should be held hostage to getting Debian to do the same thing. Fedora
should be a leader here in working well with upstream.
With that you just invalidated your point above about "trying to provide
a single look for the GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks",
all this "using the upstream" make sense *only* if everybody that
matters is doing it.
My proposal is is straightforward:
Once you select a user and log in to GNOME, you get the GNOME default
background. All other artwork follows normal Fedora procedures.
So by default I get a GDM with vertical stripes and when choosing
anything else than GNOME Shell (be it the classic panel or Xfce), the
background image will change, while if I go to use the Shell, the
background stays consistent? That's treating everything else as
second-class.
While there are some mockups about how we'd like GDM to look like
to
match the rest of GNOME 3 (See
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-design/plain/mockups/static/user-...
) they aren't going to be implemented in this cycle, so there's already
a visual transition between the login screen and the desktop.
So we make so much noise for an incomplete desktop. It look to me like
GNOME 3 is not ready enough to receive such strong promotion.
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