On 12/22/2010 12:01 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora(a)nicubunu.ro
I want to reiterate this: my *strong* preference is for us to not have
to vote but to reach a consensus. We are dangerously on the way for
something ugly. And I don't like it takes so long.
We need to be back friends and fast.
+1 but how? We also need a lasting solution to this kind of conflict.
So, there is going to be some sour moments ... but we need to get it
finalized for good.
I would be all for a consensus but I don't think that will happen since
from my point of view, the request would have to be turned down. I don't
want the team to suffer because of this and I really like the wallpaper
in question, but I really fear for the future of the team and about
Fedora design in general if we don't make a stand at this point.
That is totally my personal opinion, though. And I'm often wrong...
Your concerns seem right to me. Is there no group in Fedora that handles
this kind of scenario (an SIG or something?). Both parties have
legitimate concerns but there are better ways to address them.
First, Gnome3 designers made a mistake in proceeding with a wallpaper
design outside of the Fedora Design team -- If they see our distro as a
marketing route then we should have been involved from the beginning.
Second, that decision (as mentioned above) can be interpreted negatively
and no one can be held responsible for choosing the wrong
interpretation. It could mean: "We can do this in-house and have a rein
over the overall GUI" (which also suggests a GNOME DISTRO ;) -- I don't
mean a default Fedora Spin ...I mean a real Gnome Distro with the Gnome
'Foot' everywhere!, no further branding). It could also mean: "We can do
this better than downstream guys" ... which makes us redundant. It could
mean that the Gnome Team forgot they had a pool to draw from and is only
realizing it now.
Third, Several years of Gnome3 development is not a joke. They deserve
some level of marketing but they shouldn't make it mandatory (which
suggests some kind of Master-Slave relationship). In any case, a "No"
from the Fedora Design Team should NOT brew hard feelings and, on the
other hand, Fedorians shouldn't fail to proudly exhibit Gnome3 to people
Boundaries ... gentlemen, lets agree to agree OR agree to disagree.
Disagreeing to agree is making this topic bloated and prolonged. :)