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On 17/12/2010 9:23 PM, "Fabian A. Scherschel" <fab(a)sixgun.org> wrote:
Wow..... Just heard about this now. With all due respect, this is
BULLSHIT. You are
telling me you couldn't have told the team earlier? Maybe
BEFORE we all started ramping up to do the F15 wallpaper? This decision
must've been in the works for quite some time.
This is disappointing as hell. I had expected nonsense like that within
community, but not with Fedora. This would've been a chance to
really set Fedora apart and create the best Gnome 3 experience everywhere in
an open and transparent way. We've said so since the last GUADEC. That is
what the Design Team is for. If we just dictate a wallpaper from up hight,
that maybe transparent but it's not open. At least not in my understanding
of it. And now this, out of nowhere. What exactly is the Design Team doing
for F15 now? Why are we even there at all?
Sorry if this sounds pissed off, but that is basically the way I feel
# Fabian A. Scherschel
# Host & Producer, Sixgun Productions
# Member, Fedora Design Team
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik(a)redhat.com>
> On Friday, December 17, 2010 08:10:44 am Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > > We want Fedora to be the showcase for GNOME 3 and to be a good
> > > to other distributions about how to package GNOME 3.
So, to go along
> > > with the release splash for Fedora 15, we'd like to make special
> > > that for this release we use the GNOME background in
the Fedora GNOME
> > > packages and hence in the default Fedora desktop.
> > As I understood the opinions in the latest team IRC meeting, blog
> > comments, mailing list discussions and direct contacts with community
> > members, the general opinion is such a move would be detrimental to
> > Fedora's own image and of little use for GNOME promotion.
> > > I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't
> > > the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora
backgrounds are great,
> > > keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking
> > > issue is rather a question of trying to provide a
single look for the
> > > GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution.
> > Can you name at least one other *relevant* distro that will use the
> > background as default? Especially if they know this may be
> > > * What about the rest of the artwork?
> > >
> > > I think trying to adapt the entire set of artwork in Fedora to
> > > different looks for different spins is probably
> > > anything else. The GNOME default background matches
> > > the Fedora look, so it's not going to be
jarring to switch to it
> > > after seeing the standard Fedora artwork for boot.
> > Case in point: the GDM background would be the same as the GNOME
> > background or as the general-purpose background used by all the other
> > spins? Which one of the spins will have an inconsistent experience? The
> > same about the Plymouth colors. We are supposed to use *vertical
> > stripes* or not in GRUB, Anaconda, firstboot etc.? How about website
> > identity?
> I'm not against even making theme based on Gnome/KDE stripes - it should
> for both Gnome 3 and other desktops and still retains our
> would have stripes based theme but with Fedora feel there - win
> both projects!
> Last time I proposed it, it wasn't accepted but still I think this can
> could bring some "personality" to spins - to combine
upstream themes with
> ones. But it involves much more work.
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I had not been contributing to Design Team ever (too rusted to do).
The request from Gnome team sounds logical to them and they have their right
for their stand point. However, this is somehow a damage to the oss
community imho. The top 3 things an user notice the differences as a distro
are booting screens, window theme, and default wallpaper! I am not here to
bring on the flame, but acceptance of this disminish our Fedora identity and
our branding as well.