Hello, my name is Tyler Staud. I am currently a student at Byron P. Steele
High School. I will be graduating next year and plan on going to college
and majoring in some sort of design program.
At the moment, I have a broad range of experience. I am currently the Photo
Editor/Designer on my school newspaper; that may not sound like much but my
school currently has 2000+ students. I handled everything from cleaning
photos to manipulating them as well as designing layouts and modifying
layouts. This coming year I plan on moving to Sport's Editor. Which brings
me to my next area of expertise. I decided to make the move to Sport's
Editor because I currently own and operate a website.
Link to website: steelefootball.com
I had originally created the website using HTML and CSS. Just a few months
ago I made the move to Flash. Every inch of that website (photos, designs,
videos, etc) was all created by myself. I am currently in the process of
moving back to HTML, due to the lack of user friendliness with Flash. Many
of my users can not view the website because their computer screen's
resolution can not cover the entire websites resolution. Once I make the
move back to HTML I plan on adding Facebook Connect as well as some other
I believe I could be of some help with Fedora's projects. I am extremely
experienced with Adobe Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects and Flash. (I have
my PC setup to dual boot Windows 7 and Fedora). I can also create
advertisements of all types as well as effectively use them thanks to my
experience in Newspaper. I decided to volunteer my help to Fedora because I
love the simplicity of this Distro. Ubuntu, Linux Mint and Puppy Linux did
not quiet seem to cut it for me. But I have noticed with simplicity comes
learning, which is the best part of Linux in my eyes. I am not as
experienced as most with Linux; but I will learn. My experience with Linux
will not effect my design though. I can still create any design in Windows
(for now) and make use of them in Linux.
Thank you taking the time to read this and I hope you guys can find a few
areas I can be useful in. If you would like me to create and send some sort
of design as a reference of my experience I will be more then happy to
Sources (some of my work)
Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/steeleknightfootball
Ways to get ahold of me:
Phone:419 388 8021
I was reading up on the logo guidelines earlier because I need to obtain a
fedora_logo for ticket #196. I am slightly confused about one part. Does
the design team have to go through logos to obtain a logo? If not, where
can we get the logos? Sorry if this isn't the place to ask. I'm not
entirely sure about the email rules and whatnot.
I am Sayantan Datta. I am a sophomore in N. I. T. Durgapur, India and i am
studying Computer Engineering.
I am a hobbyist photographer, and my blog is
As for designing, till date i have used adobe products and GIMP, for my
needs and edits.currently i am a designer for the college tech clubs for
their annual fests and magazines.
My computer has some weird issues with fedora 15, so i have no option but to
stick with fedora 14. I think i can put in a lot of data for the
supplementary photographs which comes along with the newer versions of
fedora. I am also equally interested in designing, which till date was
mainly based to vector designs.
I surely hope i can learn in the process and also help this team with the
best that i can do.
2nd Year B.Tech N.I.T Durgapur
Mobile : +91 90888 55809
facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/kenzo.rulz
Hi, I apologize for breaking the thread as my Fedora mail is a bit broken ATM...
> David Nalley david at gnsa.us > Wed Jul 20 01:41:02 UTC 2011 >
2011/7/19 Máirín Duffy <duffy at fedoraproject.org>: > >. As outlined
in the guidelines, you are supposed to request > permission for > >
your particular usage of the logo in writing to logo at >
fedoraproject.org. > > The above seems to conflict with my
understanding of the trademark > guidelines from: >
So this is a good point. I am not a lawyer nor any kind of legal
expert, and I do not think this is the correct place to discuss the
particulars of Fedora's trademark guidelines and we'd probably all be
better served if I hadn't said anything in the first place and had just
redirected to Fedora legal.
Please insert, 'if not explicitly granted by the trademark guidelines'
to the end of the quoted sentence to understand my intent.
The point that Christoph made was: "Somebody could just violate the
guidelines and declare it a sublogo."
The point I was trying to make to allay this concern is that following
the guidelines on the Logo/Usage Guidelines page does not automagically
grant you trademark rights. The trademark guidelines page does *in some
situations* but there are many situations in which it does not. So you
can't make a Fedora Hot Dog Haters logo using the sublogo guidelines
and be okay. The 'Fedora Hot Dog Haters' example given is not explicitly
granted in the trademark guidelines wiki page. Here is some language
that could support this claim, with varying levels of hilarity:
- "the use is only in connection with promoting the Fedora Project or
Fedora products" I don't understand how a group of people sharing
stories of hate about hot dogs promotes the Fedora project or
- "the use is not disparaging to Red Hat, the Fedora Project or their
products" - the hot dog is an unofficial meat product of Fedora and
having a haters group is disparaging to it
- "the official logo usage guidelines are strictly observed" - the
official logo guidelines state that the groups sublogo is meant for
usage by groups within Fedora, and the applications logo is for use for
applications running on Fedora's infrastructure. If your application
isn't running on Fedora's infrastructure, you can't use that sublogo.
You could feasibly consider a hot dog haters group a 'group' within
Fedora as it is not an official Fedora SIG or team. I suppose if such a
group went through the SIG creation process such a logo might fly. I do
not know if we have a canonical group of SIGs/teams within Fedora, but
my guess is the list of groups in FAS would be a good start at one.
Certainly if no such group exists you have no business creating such a
We could modify the language in the logo usage guidelines to explicitly
state you must be creating a logo for an established SIG or team within
Fedora if you use the 'groups' sublogo. Would that help?
> Specifically, there are a number of situations which do not require
> permission to use Fedora®, the Fedora word design, the Infinity design
> logo, Fedora Remix, and the Fedora Remix word design, either
> separately or in combination.
Yep and as stated above there are a number of situation that do.
> Am I misunderstanding the intent of what's meant by request
permission > for a particular usage of the logo? > I fear that if
permission from logo at fp.o is required above and > beyond > the
levels established at the trademark guidelines, I've frequently > run
afoul of that requirement. For instance, the logo that appears at: >
http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/sponsor/fedora likely originated >
from me (although derived from the svgs) in years past, and fwiu, >
falls within the Trademark Guidelines no-permission-necessary section,
> but I don't recall asking permission for it.
Christoph and I were specifically talking about *modifying* the marks.
E.g., if you take a sublogo design where the name of the application is
meant to be filled in something like:
and do something like this to it:
HANKY THE HOTDOG
You're taking a trademarked mark and combining it with 'hanky the
hotdog', who has little to do with Fedora.
So just to restate another way: if you take unmodified (besides say
colorspace and size) logomarks such as the Fedora full logo, the logo
mark, the logo text, or any of the four foundations graphics, and use
them in a manner explicitly approved by the trademark guidelines you
are fine. There is no question your usage of the Fedora logo was fine.
Where it gets hairy is if you decide to take the FUDcon logo and make a
logo out of it, following the aesthetic guidelines but getting Hanky's
basement involved when there is nor ever will be an official 'FUDcon
Hanky's basement' event.
> To more succinctly state my question: If I comply with the Trademark
> guidelines (either through one of the no-permission-needed
exceptions, > or with an explicit agreement) and I use the trademark(s)
in > accordance with the usage guidelines wrt colors, spacing, etc.,
what > additional permission is needed?
Great question. If you are filling in a 'template' logo there are some
- If you are using the 'FUDcon' logo template, you may only fill in the
template with the location of an actual FUDcon. While we may like a
FUDcon Aruba, if it's not a real event, you shouldn't be making a logo
- If you are using the Fedora sublogo for applications, you
should only fill in the template with the name of an application that
actually exists and is hosted on Fedora's infrastructure.
- If you are using the Fedora sublogo for groups, you should only fill in the
template with the name of a Fedora SIG or team that actually exists.
Anyway, I am not comfortable having this discussion on this list and would like
to request again that anyone concerned here take their concerns to the
Fedora Board or to Fedora legal. Thanks in advance, I very much appreciate it.
Hope the above helps.
Thanks in huge part to Ian Weller's meticulous work in the care and
feeding of Fedora's branding, we've got a major Fedora logo usage
guidelines update ready on the wiki. The guidelines have been expanded
and improved in a number of ways, including:
- Coverage of the Fedora application and group sublogos.
- Coverage of the Fedora Remix logos.
- Coverage of the Fedora Foundations logos.
- Downloadable GPL-format palette file of an expanded color palette.
- Expanded and illustrated explanation of clear space guidelines
throughout the document.
- Updated and expanded font usage guidelines.
- Overall more explanations, rationale, and other instructions on using
You can read more about the update in a blog post I did:
Or you can skulk around stealthily like a ninja right on directly to the
new guidelines themselves:
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:40 +0000, Storari Samuele wrote:
> from my last updates the final version of the logo is that:
> here you can find the SVG source:
Okay, so keeping in mind our FUDcon logo guidelines have not been live
on the Logo/UsageGuidelines wiki page all this time--
We don't typically allow graphics to be integrated into the logo like
Is this logo final?
- If so, I think we should make an exception just this once and have the
guidelines live ASAP so it doesn't happen again.
- If not, I think we should pull the additional graphics.
On 07/13/2011 01:19 PM, Joey Boggs wrote:
> It seems there are some issues with the current Spins approval
> process, but to workaround I've been asked to contact each of your
> lists to get acks for approval to keep the ball rolling.
> The spins feature page in question is located at:
> For the test plan we are awaiting an upstream commit to virt-manager
> to add in a tui version of virt-manager. We plan to showcase that in
> the spin as well. This means the test plan will be updated from its
> current state. (updated tentatively today)
> For the artwork we have a boot splash screen in the unofficial spins
> that we release ourselves on new builds, in the case of a spin this
> was an item we are not allowed to change. We'll also be providing
> screenshots of the new virt-manager-tui and standalone mode installation.
> If you have any questions please contact me or apevec(a)redhat.com
Can I get an ACK on the artwork portion of this spin? The only artwork
involved was a boot time splash screen. Since nonchrooted changes are
forbidden there is no artwork for the spin to be approved.