On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hi all. At today's Fedora Council "virtual face-to-face" meeting, we
decided that it's time to move our discussion from this mailing list
and IRC to more modern platforms: namely, Discourse via
and Matrix via ... something yet
to be determined, but probably initially a channel on element.io and
then eventually our own server.
What do you hope to gain from moving Council discussions to Discourse?
Some Fedora Teams, like the Magazine, have already moved from the
mailing list, and noted a significant increase in visiblity and
participation. The fact is, even those of us who proudly self-identify
as "old school" are reluctant to sign up for yet-another-mailing-list
these days. It's a serious barrier to project entry.
And IRC ... it's served us well, but... it's also not kept up, and it's
*long* been a problem we've seen in attracting new contributors. More
and more new projects turn to Slack or Discord for their real-time
discussions. I'd like us to move to something open source while such
things are viable, and hopefully by doing so help them stay
competitive. Since we don't have a Matrix server up and running, this
is a little further off, but I wanted to mention it here.
In any case, we plan to:
* Bridge IRC and Matrix, so that you can stay on IRC and interact if
that's your preference. Freenode isn't going away anytime soon!
* Plan to port zodbot to be a Matrix-native bot, so we can have logged
meetings, cookies-with-badges, adamw "firing" people, etc.
* Retire this list for new posts (tentatively, starting December 1st),
and instead direct conversation to
* Set up a bot to automatically post summaries of discussion from that
category to this list, so that long-term subscribers aren't left out
Note that unlike a "BB"-style web forum, you can interact with
via email, including getting individual
new posts and responding in your mail client. It isn't quite a
first-class experience, though -- there are many features which are web
Any questions about any of this? Anything I haven't thought of?
I would strongly not recommend promoting the email features of
Discourse. They're pretty terrible to work with from an email-workflow
perspective. Personally, I'm fortunate that I don't have to discuss
with the Council too much, or this might actually be a huge problem
The intent to move to Matrix, however, is quite welcome. I'm looking
forward to helping there wherever I can.
真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!