On Wed, Apr 19, 2017, at 06:48 AM, Karsten Wade wrote:
On 04/18/2017 05:27 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> Also, I don't want to bikeshed this mission to death word-for-word.
> Perfect is the enemy of good. If "enables" is what everyone feels is
> best, great.
Whoops, yeah; I had a longer email a few days ago that I sat on to see
how the discussion went, and it actually suggested some colors for the
bikeshed.
So what I like is this, with Jeff Sandys' reordering, addition of
free/open, some Oxford commas, and replacement of lights-up:
Fedora creates an innovative free/open platform for users, community
members, and software developers to build solutions for hardware,
containers, and clouds.
This structure seems to really change the meaning. We are now saying we
build a thing for users, community members and developers to use to make
hardware/container/cloud solutions. That reads to me like Fedora is a
project that exists to enable hosting providers.
I think about the mission statement as a statement that says "We make X
to cause Y to happen which enables Z to do P"
X = our software platform for hardware/clouds/containers
Y = an ecosystem around our platform
Z = our community members and developers and users
P = achieve their goals (i.e. building a new web app, running a
university, building the best desktop&services platform for knitters,
etc.)
I realize I am biased because I was part of the team that generated the
original statement, but I still like the modified form of:
Fedora makes an innovative free/open platform available on hardware,
clouds and in containers that enables our community, users, and
developers to achieve their goals.
I realize that some people find "innovative" to be buzz-wordy, but I
feel like we are actually innovating with initiatives like Modularity.
I don't think we should lose that. We are a strong supporter of
upstream, but we are also changing the world ourselves!
regards,
bex
> (I prefer 'innovate' because I think the value of FOSS is as an
> innovation engine. I dropped the extra verb that "lights up" was there
> for, the verb 'build' is strong enough.)
>
> Here's the same thing without specifying the tech flavor-of-the-month:
>
> Fedora creates an innovative free/open platform for users, community
> members, and software developers to build on with modern technology.
>
> Getting there ...
>
> And I apologize for how this thread has almost completely changed the
> original proposal. OTOH, this is the main bikeshed, and all the other
> cool decisions and ideas you came to on your recent FAD can now slip
> through uncontested. :-D
>
> Regards,
>
> - Karsten
> --
> Karsten Wade
> Community Infrastructure Team
> Open Source and Standards, @redhatopen
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