On 20 April 2017 at 07:10, Brian Exelbierd <bex(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> This structure seems to really change the meaning. We are
now saying we
> build a thing for users, community members and developers to use to make
> hardware/container/cloud solutions. That reads to me like Fedora is a
> project that exists to enable hosting providers.
> I think about the mission statement as a statement that
says "We make X
> to cause Y to happen which enables Z to do P"
> X = our software platform for hardware/clouds/containers
> Y = an ecosystem around our platform
> Z = our community members and developers and users
> P = achieve their goals (i.e. building a new web app, running a
> university, building the best desktop&services platform for knitters,
> I realize I am biased because I was part of the team that
> original statement, but I still like the modified form of:
> Fedora makes an innovative free/open platform available on
> clouds and in containers that enables our community, users, and
> developers to achieve their goals.
I still think it really is too long and trying to cover all the
bases.. which is a problem a lot of mission statements have of trying
to please as many people as possible. They start to look like middle
aged people trying to recapture their youth by driving a red
convertible and driving past the Silicon Valley startups on a slow
cruise to see who will jump in.
This is a reason why people groan like they have groaned at every
heavy worded mission statement in the past.. Remember all the ones
that made sure that terms like Linux, Internet, or Web had to be in
them in the 90's and early 2000's? They look too much like a three
I apologize if this is coming across as highly negative. I know how
hard writing a mission statement is.. I have had to do at least 10 in
my career. Most of them were a LOT worse than the one presented here..
mainly because they were trying to square a circle. The ones that
worked were always short, sweet and clearly pulled from the values to
the vision as I said earlier.
Also since I got one Neil's case for not offering a patch, here is my
The Fedora Project creates innovative platforms built on Free and Open
source software that allows our community build tailored solutions for
The Fedora Project creates Free/Open innovative platforms that allows
our community to build tailored solutions for their users.
> I realize that some people find "innovative" to be buzz-wordy, but I
> feel like we are actually innovating with initiatives like Modularity.
> I don't think we should lose that. We are a strong supporter of
> upstream, but we are also changing the world ourselves!
I have no problems with innovative.
Stephen J Smoogen.