On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 08:39:59PM +0100, Gerold wrote:
For me, this discussion looks like a finger pointing: "... Look
burn the money to have a funny weekend on our costs ..."
Gerold, "on our costs" is actually "from the scant resources the Fedora
Project has for all of our community activities". I think it's entirely
appropriate to be frugal with our spending on social events. I am not
at all opposed to _having_ social events at FADs — in fact, I think
they are important, and was totally fine with approving the 600€ for
that for last year's FAD. But this request had a significantly higher
portion allocated towards various social events. That just doesn't seem
fair to everyone else.
I understand that the reimbursement thing is frustrating, but, really,
I'm extremely happy that we are able to offer that kind of
reimbursement at all. In order to _keep_ being able to do that, we need
be very sure we're making the most of what we ask for.
I know that particularly for large sums and where credit cards are not
as widespread as in the US, the corporate policies of our sponsor are
less than ideal (although I should add it *shouldn't* take months to be
reimbursed). We might be able to work out other things, but *this* is
not easy and requires extra time. Coming to the Council asking for
special handling for money in a few days just isn't realistic.
without family, children and friends. I´d also like to say that on
the most FAD´s in Rheinfelden, a FPL showed up or some VIPs from Red
Hat with a credit card because they knew about the importance to get
correct and planable numbers from EMEA.
I certainly know about the importance, and as we just discussed, would
like this from _all_ of the regions. It's evident that a planning FAD
helps, because EMEA has always had the best organization.
But, I don't _have_ a magical Red Hat credit card — I get reimbursed
like everyone else, and I have to justify each and every transaction. I
certainly don't have the travel budget for going off to Europe several
times a year, let alone also APAC and LATAM. We could take money from
the community budget, but, honestly, I'd _rather_ use that money to get
other Fedora contributors to Flock and to FADs.
Fedora Project Leader