I had some informal discussions relating to copyleft-next in Brussels around the time of FOSDEM, potentially triggering the need for an HBR cure.
For reference, the relevant part of HBR [0] says:
"Except in extraordinary cases, private telephone calls, private teleconferences, private in-person meetings, and private email communications shall not be used to discuss *substantive* development of this project. Should such private communications nevertheless occur, participants in such communications are expected to publish summaries of any relevant discussions in a manner or medium accessible to the general net public."
I can only really remember one discussion I'd consider possibly substantive, which took place in a noisy bar following CopyleftConf on Monday 3 February. This was a conversation with bkuhn and a few other individuals whose names unfortunately escape me or which I did not know to begin with. This was basically a continuation of the discussion bkuhn had started some time ago on this mailing list, pointing out some potential flaws in the current implementation of what some are now calling a copyleft equality clause. I'm not sure any truly new ideas or problems were brought up in this conversation. Perhaps bkuhn or, if they are on this list, any of the other participants in this conversation can remember more.
Richard
[0] https://github.com/richardfontana/HBR/blob/master/HBR.md
Fontana, I'm answering your add-on query from the other thread over on this thread, as this is replying to your contemporaneous HBR cure.
Richard Fontana wrote back in February 2020:
I can only really remember one discussion I'd consider possibly substantive, which took place in a noisy bar following CopyleftConf on Monday 3 February. This was a conversation with bkuhn and a few other individuals whose names unfortunately escape me or which I did not know to begin with. This was basically a continuation of the discussion bkuhn had started some time ago on this mailing list, pointing out some potential flaws in the current implementation of what some are now calling a copyleft equality clause. I'm not sure any truly new ideas or problems were brought up in this conversation. Perhaps bkuhn or, if they are on this list, any of the other participants in this conversation can remember more.
Today Fontana asked again:
Meanwhile, since I have your attention, bkuhn, there was at least one Hindering Backchannels Rule (HBR) cure I was supposed to do based on at least one discussion we had in the past. One was following CopyleftConf in early 2020 but I think there was an earlier one from April 2019. Anyway I can't really remember what we talked about so I think these HBR violations are not curable, unless you remember.
I have handwritten notes from early 2020. As everyone knows, this was right before the pandemic started so it was a weird time. I may well have lost track of those handwritten notes. Also, they may well be in buried in my suitcase which I haven't used since that conference (😲 !). If I find the handwritten notes, we can cure that one.
I'm a bit frustrated with myself in fact that I can't remember what we discussed, as I recall we came up with a useful idea regarding the copyleft equality clause that might be worth implementing. I remember you saying to me “Hey, so did you understand that?” and I said that I did and that I'd written it down, but if I can't find those handwritten notes, I think we'll have to figure out the solution from scratch again.
I remember Ben Cotton was there … does he maybe remember? If someone can tell me what type of paper I was writing on, that might even help as I know what to look for. I don't throw things away lightly so I suspect I have it somewhere …
As for the 2019 one, I dunno.
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On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:06 PM Bradley M. Kuhn bkuhn@ebb.org wrote:
I remember Ben Cotton was there … does he maybe remember? If someone can tell me what type of paper I was writing on, that might even help as I know what to look for. I don't throw things away lightly so I suspect I have it somewhere …
I have a vague recollection that such a conversation took place. But it was at the end of a two-week, three-conference-plus-internal-meetings trip, so my brain was more mushy than normal by that point. I'm afraid I can't offer any specific recollections that would help jog your memory.
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