Richard Fontana wrote at 22:01 (EDT) on Tuesday:
On 07/31/2012 07:54 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:
> I also somewhat get why the second number must be 30 days (i.e.,
> shorter), because the copyright holder has to ramp up legal action
> *after* the termination is permanent, so waiting 30 days really means
> waiting 90 or even 180 to get a Court to issue an injunction, since the
> 30 day mark is merely your *filing* date.
That is interesting, but you seem to be inventing a post-hoc
justification for the 30-day provision that has no connection to why
it's actually there.
You're right: I should be clear: I wasn't consulted on the GPLv3
Termination clause, so *any* reason I might come up with is of course
Having admitted that, *every* time I look at the GPLv3 Termination
section, I like it more.
urged the FSF to add a cure provision
Had I been asked, I would have supported a self-cure provision, just
because it's good policy. Having a self-cure provision could have the
effect to avoid an "oh well, I'm screwed now, why bother?" response by
violators. The hope would be that they seek to cure in the timeframe
allotted. I like it as a policy.
4) Person(s) associated with GPL enforcement in Germany later raised
concerns about the absence of any automatic termination language.
I didn't know that. Is there a record of this and their concerns?
In other words, let's not establish some myth that the FSF sat
and decided to draft the perfect logical alternative to GPLv2-style
automatic termination and thereby came up with what we have today in
I didn't mean to put forward the myth. *However*, I state again: when I
look at what we have in GPLv3§8, I like what I see and think it's good
But if that's so, it is serendipitous.
I just think it's way more complicated than a termination
needs to be.
Ok, pursuant to my Platonic ideal thread, please describe what you see
when you fly above the the Land of True Forms as a the One True Copyleft
Termination Provision. If I tried to describe mine, I'd probably get
close to GPLv3, but that may merely mean I have no imagination. :)