IRC Meeting Minutes + Future IRC Meetings
by Justin W. Flory
Hey CommOpsers,
We just finished our first IRC meeting a short bit ago, and we had a
good initial turnout for the meeting! It was great to (formally) meet
those of you there, and I'm hoping to catch anyone else who couldn't
make it at future meetings. There's two things I want to cover real fast:
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Firstly, many of you already are familiar with Meetbot and you can catch
the meeting minutes here:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2015-10-27/fedora-meet...
For those of you who are just getting started or aren't as familiar with
IRC and Meetbot, this is a useful tool to provide quick summaries of
meetings across the Fedora Project. Give it a scroll-through and read
the big header topics - you can also get the full verbatim minutes there
as well.
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Secondly, we would like to schedule weekly IRC meetings for the upcoming
future so we can discuss different items on our agenda and begin working
on the objectives listed on the wiki page. In order to help coordinate
this, we want to know when everyone will be available for our weekly
meeting. Please fill out the following form and select the times that
work best for you. Remember to select your time zone when choosing times.
http://whenisgood.net/fedora/commops/wklymtg
After getting a decent number of responses we can look at changing our
default time of Tuesdays @ 16:00 UTC if there is a better time slot (for
the meanwhile, this is the planned time).
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Thanks for the great meeting today, I'm super excited about moving
forward with CommOps! :)
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Cheers,
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Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
8 years, 6 months
[Reminder] CommOps IRC meeting now!
by Justin W. Flory
Hey all,
Just a reminder, we will be holding the introductory CommOps IRC meeting
at 12:00pm US EST (or in five minutes from now).
Tune in at #fedora-meeting-2 on freenode, hope to see you there!
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Cheers,
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Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com
8 years, 6 months
Self Introduction[ IRC nick /FAS : bee2502 ]
by Bhagyashree Uday
Hi,
I am Bhagyashree(Bee). I am a senior at Indian Institute of
Technology(IIT), Guwahati, India. I love to crunch numbers and analyse data
especially if it’s to improve user experience/gain insights about user
behavior :) My interests lie at the conjunction of Machine Learning ,
Natural Language Processing and Social Media Analysis. I am also broadly
interested in Information Retrieval and Recommender Systems. (All big words
:P )
I am a newbie to FOSS(not so much to Fedora) but the CommOps community has
been nothing but warm,welcoming and extremely helpful making the transition
very smooth. Looking forward to contributing to CommOps on metrics related
tasks,
Cheers,
Bee
P.S. If possible, please do check out my latest post on Meetbot Data
Analytics :
https://networksfordata.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/fedora-a-peek-into-irc-m...
and do tell me about your thoughts/comments/suggestions.
8 years, 6 months
Self-Introduction : Keerthana Krishnan (FAS: keekri)
by Keerthana Krishnan
Hi guys!
I'm Keerthana (keekri), a student. I've never really contributed to an
actual FOSS project before so this is pretty new and exciting, and frankly,
slightly intimidating. I love trying out new things and and the positive
atmosphere here at Fedora is awesome. Looking forward to working with all
you wonderful people here at commops!!
P.S. I'll probably be active only in the evenings (Of my timezone, India),
since I have class in the day and I may ask a lot of stupid doubts too, so
please bear with me!! ^^!
--
Keerthana Krishnan
B.Tech Computer Science (2012-16)
Govt. Model Engineering College
Email : contactkeerthana(a)gmail.com
IEEE CS Student Member
Blogger : https://cutencrazyindie.wordpress.com/
8 years, 6 months
Self-introduction Gabriele Trombini (FAS mailga)
by Gabriele Trombini
Hi guys,
I'm Gabriele Trombini from Italy and I'm happy to be here.
As member (also) of the mktg group, I'm really interested in the
commops work and I like to contribute to keep connected the Project
areas of interest.
Of course as a mktg member I'm really interested to metrics (just today
I replied to a discussion Matthew Miller opened about the marketing
group).
In my contributor life, I gave (and give) several contributions to the
Project, both locally and internationally; mainly:
- I took part to the growth of the Italian community;
- I wrote (together with Robyduck) a entry-level user Fedora book;
- I'm an Italian Ambassador;
- I'm a websites member;
- I'm a Marketing member and editor for FedMag;
- I'm member of the join-SIG group;
I'm not a developer, due to my schooling I'm more comfortable with the
planning and the organizational aspect of the structures.
In this case, I'm excited to discover the improvements commops can
bring to the Project, and I wanna getting comfortable with the
available tools.
Thanks.
Gabri
8 years, 6 months
Re: [commops] Self-Introduction: Justin W. Flory
by Remy DeCausemaker
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gabriele Trombini" <g.trombini(a)gmail.com>
> To: marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:38:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Self-Introduction: Justin W. Flory
>
> Il giorno mer, 14/10/2015 alle 15.48 -0400, Justin W. Flory ha scritto:
> > Hello all,
>
>
> Hello Justin!
Welcome Welcome jflory7 :)
>
> >
> > I was going through the wiki for joining the marketing group, and
> > realized that I never formally introduced myself to the list,
> > although
> > I've been posting intermittently for Fedora Magazine / other misc.
> > things. So I figured better late than never.
>
> No problem, each one can contribute also without any introduction. It's
> required only in the joining process.
>
> I saw you posts in the magazine; good job! Thank you very much
>
> [cut]
>
>
Agreed! Your coverage on FLOCK was great too (thanks for including my word cloud :) )
>
>
> > This is my first marketing project that I've wanted to participate
> > with,
> > and I do not have a formal background in marketing, but it is an area
> > that interests me greatly as I think it's one of the most important
> > aspects of any project, especially in open-source.
>
> There's no need to have background or specific skills, no worries.
>
> >
> > The skills that I hope to be able to utilize in the Fedora Marketing
> > group are:
> > - Content Creation (Fedora Magazine, Fedora Planet, etc.)
> > - University Outreach Initiative (and assisting with any projects /
> > planning for that initiative if possible)
We are actually formalizing the Logic Model for the University Initiative right now with the help of the Fedora Design Team. You can find that ticket and the requisite files associated with it here: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/405
Right now, the "resources" section does not match directly to the "outcomes" section, so we're reworking the content within the .ods spreadsheet attached to the ticket.
We're hoping to have not just the content, but the layout for the EDU Initiative's Logic Model Completed by November. We're working to create something re-usable, like a template, so that moving forward, objectives have a common planning/budgeting process, as well as a common framework for displaying and explaining/conveying an Objective's inputs and outputs.
> > - I'm also very open to learning new things and acquiring new skills,
> > particularly in terms of marketing in an open-source project
>
> Cool, I think you don't need any explanation about the content
> creation, so if you wanna know more about the world around the
> magazine, please refer to these pages [1][2]
>
> I see you already joined our IRC channel, so nothing else to say except
> that we have a ticketing system for assign tasks [3], feel free to file
> a ticket for requests.
>
> At the moment we're working on the tasks in order to be ready for the
> next fedora release [4].
Yes, this is def the place where we can use the most help. You've been following the commops/mktg thread about the release announcement, but that is somewhere you can def help. We've forked the Beta Release Announcement, and it still needs much polish and input: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F23_release_announcement
>
> I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting something important, but if you have any
> question, you can ask in the IRC channel.
>
> [cut]
>
> > I'm very interested in working with someone to
> > organize events not only at RIT, but possibly at other schools in the
> > area.
> >
> > On that note, I haven't been able to find any official planning area
> > for
> > work being done on this Initiative, so I was also curious to where
> > planning or discussion is mostly happening for this initiative.
See above ticket with design team and Logic Model :) There is also the EDU objective page on the wiki, if you'd like to add to that: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/University_Involvement_Initiative
> >
> > I am very happy to be a part of this awesome project and the
> > community
> > that surrounds it. I'm tired of sitting around in the sidelines and I
> > want to have an active role with helping Fedora to the best of my
> > abilities. I'm looking forward to working with this group in the near
> > and long-term future!
>
> One of the marketing tasks is to work with ambassadors; being
> ambassador allows you to organize events, in accordance with your
> region.
Agreed. You should see about joining the NA ambassadors, and in the meantime, ask Prof. Jacobs about the upcoming Election Night hackathon at RIT ;)
>
> Welcome on board Justin!
>
> See you soon.
>
> Gabri
Welcome jflory7, and I look forward to your continued involvement :)
The Pool is on the Roof,
--RemyD.
>
> [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
> [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks_and_roles (to be updated)
> [3]https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/report
> [4]https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html
>
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8 years, 6 months
post on Fedora Marketing and Abassadors on Council mailing list
by Matthew Miller
I just posted a kinda long message about marketing and ambassadors to
the Fedora Council discussion mailing list
<https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-discuss/2015-October/01...>
I know not everyone on these lists is subscribed to every other one,
and rather than cross-posting and watching the discussion get
fragmented, I decided to post just in the one place. However, I'm
interested in all of your feedback, so I'm also cross-posting *this* a
bunch of places.
Don't respond here, please — instead, if you're interested in this kind
of thing, please join the Council list and followup there. Thanks!
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
8 years, 6 months
Re: [commops] Followups from Council phone call monday — Budget discussion for this year and beyond
by Remy DeCausemaker
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> To: "Discussions with the Fedora Council and community" <council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:37:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Followups from Council phone call monday — Budget discussion for this year and beyond
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 04:23:28AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > I've often wondered why we don't do the "Fedora Meetup" model. It
>
> I think this is simply the same reason we don't have a lot of other
> things we know would be a good idea in Fedora but haven't done — no one
> really enthused about it stepped up and made it happen.
>
> I was actually talking with Remy about this as a community
> action/impact activity last week. Remy, what are your thoughts?
There are a number of other topics/ideas that came out of that 1x1 with mattdm last week:
- It'd be nice to track whenever "Fedora" is covered in existing meetups (NLP on descriptions? Some other MeetupAPI grepping?)
- Encouraging Ambassadors to target local meetups (DevOps, Programming Langs, Etc...) as places to give Fedora-specific presentations
- Awarding Travel Subsidy to international events, based on participation in local/regional events
- Developing a trove of general Fedora slide-decks that can be presented at a variety of meetups (Python in Fedora, DevOps in Fedora, etc...)
> > It would be a great thing to enable the various Ambassadors to get
> > involved in, It would require a central resource(s) to manage the
> > meetup group and do some co-ordindation in the organizing of the
> > meetup group and ensuring a level of quality but seeing how large some
> > of the other meetup groups grow (I've seen some that are operating
> > 100s of meetup locations) I suspect it might be worth the effort.
>
> Very much yes. I see two main avenues — specific meetups around Fedora,
> combined with Fedora activity at meetups around other open source
> projects.
Yes, agreed see above.
Though anecdotal, I'd like to add some more story here:
LUGs have been around since long before Meetup. Rochester has one of the longest-operating LUGs in the US, according to their website. However... membership and attendance has been trending downward year-over-year. Perhaps this is because of differentiation (e.g. you used to go to LUG to talk about sysadmin tools and topics, but now there is a specific meetup for that?) Regardless, our general LUG, that doesn't focus on one single distro, is already struggling to maintain leadership and regular attendance. I cannot imagine having an even more narrowly defined meetup will bear more fruit than having a general LUG, but perhaps I am underestimating the reach/interest/passion of our users?
This is where a user census would come in very handy ;)
Finding out *where* we have a critical mass of current users, to decide where to invest in forming a regional meetup. We /could/ do this by querying FAS membership, but since it is user-reported, it could be suspect, generalized, or just plain incorrect (manual lat/long input can be iffy.) My guess is that we'd like be skewed towards the larger cities having more users (duh), but there are places like Rochester, where I think that our efforts on campuses and with regional events (like FLOCK) we may have incited a slightly larger base as a proportion of the population. What I'd rather avoid is dumping precious budget into a super-saturated market, just because it is "the biggest." We could also look at not just current users, but potential users, to see where we can grown the most? This is a more slippery metric, and I don't have an easy answer, but I'd look at datapoints like: Hackathons per year, Startups per square mile, proximity to a Red Hat office, Number of EDU's in the area, ACS/BLS labor statistics for occupational density of engineers/programmers, etc...
And lets be honest, sometimes a very small group of engaged and active hackers can be a *more* effective event, than a general meeting of hundreds of disinterested folks just looking for "free stuff." (ask Kushal about his experience with the state of Open Source Ambassadorships in India sometime for more on this...)
If there were some data, we could make strategic investment. This is a larger commops discussion waiting to be had. I think this question is def worthy of some more research, and we can do a multi-variate analysis to decide if and where to put our time/energy/budget.
I think it is key that we need to recognize that Ambassadors are *not* the only constituency that would need to do local meetup outreach, though they are the most natural. Our ambassador reach is varied by Continental Region, let alone local region, and it could be cost-ineffective to subsidize travel to even smaller events than conferences.
Getting a list of already-existing local meetups and hackathons from each ambassador would be a good start. This could just be a wiki page for now, but eventually, having local Hubs seems like a great place to keep this information, which can then be aggregated into Regional and National Hubs, without information having to be curated at each layer.
/me goes to file a few tickets.
Let's keep this conversation going, I'm going to cc the commops list to get it on the radar over there as well.
--RemyD.
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8 years, 6 months
Article: Recognizing Non-Code Contributions
by Remy DeCausemaker
CommOpses,
Those of you who are already in the #fedora-commops channel will notice commops-bot is relaying a number of fedmsgs. One that I watch for carefully, is the FPCA sponsorship messages. This fedmsg is triggered when someone signs up for a FAS account, and signs the Fedora Project Contributor Agreement. It would be *super* useful to develop a "Welcome to Fedora" message that gets fired off to the associated email address, which says something along the lines of:
---Welcome Template---
Thank you for joining the Fedora Project!
Our mission is to lead the advancement of Free and Open Source Software and content as a collaborative community of practice. Fedora wouldn't be what it is today without all the time and effort of thousands of volunteers all over the world, which now includes you!
If you don't already know where you want to get started, we have a tool, a "sorting hat" if you will, to help match your interests and skills with existing subprojects within our ecosystem. Just visit http://whatcanidoforfedora.org, and answer a couple of questions :)
If you are already an Open source developer or contributor looking for places to make impact, you can always visit our EasyFix page where we list tasks that are prime for new folks who want to get involved: https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/
Regardless of where you'd like to contribute, all of us have the ability to help grow the Fedora Project. One easy way is to help spread the word by following our social media channels and publicly engaging with and supporting other potential contributors and users:
Twitter: http://twitter.com/Fedora
G+: http://plus.google.com/...
Identica: http://pump.io/...
IRC: #fedora on irc.freenode.net
SocialMediaChannel#N+1: ...
SocialMediaChannel#N+2: ...
SocialMediaChannel#N+3: ...
If you have any questions, or just wanna come hang out, you can come join #fedora-commops and introduce yourself.
Welcome Welcome!
--Remy DeCausemaker
Fedora Community Lead
Fedora Community Operations Team (CommOps)
<commops(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
---Welcome Template---
I suppose I should file a ticket somewhere for this, since it has been on my mind for a while, but if any of you have thoughts, input and patches are more than welcome :)
Looking Forward,
--RemyD.
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Remy DeCausemaker
<decause(a)redhat.com>
Fedora Community Lead & Council Member
http://whatcanidoforfedora.org
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8 years, 6 months
Re: [commops] working on f23 final release announcement
by Remy DeCausemaker
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Remy DeCausemaker
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Fedora Community Lead & Council Member
http://whatcanidoforfedora.org
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
> To: marketing(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 2:56:04 PM
> Subject: working on f23 final release announcement
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped pull together the F23 beta annoucement.
> I'd like us to give ourselves a little more time for the final
> annoucement. :)
>
> The beta annoucement is usually targeted at a fairly technical
> audience, and that makes sense, but when that hits the mainstream press
> — even the mainstream tech press — that tends to lead to reporting
> like this sarcastic gem:
>
> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2427241/red-hat-releases-fedora-...
>
> For the final release annoucement, I'd like to refer to release notes
> (or package lists, or whatever) for the details, and focus more on The
> Exciting Story of Fedora 23.
>
> Please help me write that story. What have we got to work with?
>
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All,
This is a task that the CommOps team wants to help tackle. It makes sense for CommOps to help it because it is a community effort that spans across many teams and subprojects. I have added Release notes to our wiki page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps#Things_that_the_Fedora_Community_O...:
I, however, have never created a Final release announcement, and am not entirely sure what all goes into officially making one, other than this list of general tasks here: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-marketing-tasks.html
According to this list, we're on the final four steps calendar-wise, but task wise, I'm not sure where we are at (other than we we did release Beta Release Notes.)
Is there a trac instance or some other document somewhere that we're using to track progress on these items? If not, then we should start creating tickets somewhere to be assigned in the very near future.
Any other information or resource pages would be super helpful. Even more useful than static content would be a list of the folks who typically contribute or create the release notes, so that we can open a loop with them, and get filled in on all the institutional wisdom. I know the folks who have done the heavy lifting in the past include jzb and mattdm for sure, who are already stretched pretty thin, so any additional suggestions would be super helpful.
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, as this is something that needs to get done in the very short-term.
--RemyD.
8 years, 6 months