Cockpit Product Management
by Bob Brighton
As per Stef Walter's suggestion that I ask these questions here (rather
than on github), please find below my "Product Management" questions:
1. Does RedHat (project owner/sponsor etc.) dictate or offer guidelines
for the product and project team on: Product Management, Project
Goals, Function/Features, Time-scales/Budget, Methods, Technologies
or Standards used etc.?
2. What is this project's relationship with Project Atomic?
3. Do you have any goals to explicitly support other distributions
(Ubuntu, SUSE etc.)?
4. Do you have any marketing goals / how do you measure (marketing)
success? (Downloads, Forks, Servers being managed,
conferences/presentation/interviews given, contributors, github
watchers, technologies being managed etc.)?
5. Current version (on Fedora 21) is 0.25-1, what is the criteria for
release 1.0?
6. How do you get RedHat, other projects, users and other stakeholder
input into the Project/Roadmap?
7. How is the project team structured? Do you each have formal roles
and responsibilities?
8. How do you decide on type (hard coded HTML/CSS or CMS etc.) of the
project's public web site, its functions (simple, static, one page -
to elaborate social/community site) and what information is
contained in the project website v what is on github/github
wiki/issues etc.?
9. What plans do you have to educate/train the intended audience on the
install/configure/use etc. (YouTube videos, manuals, wiki, user
forum etc.)?
10. Are you incentivised to generate revenue (or additional resources)
by offering consultancy, support or additional features through
“feature sponsorship” etc.?
Thanks
BB
8 years, 8 months
Meeting minutes for meeting on 2014-09-22
by Patrick Uiterwijk
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Hi all,
Sorry for the delay in sending this, I thought I had already done this!
Here the meeting minutes for the meeting of 2014-09-22.
The next meeting is at 2014-09-29, at 15:00 UTC.
To see the time in your local timezone, execute the following in a shell: date -d "september 29, 2014 15:00 UTC"
For the full meeting minutes, please look at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2014-09-22/cockpit.2014-09-22-15...
The summary:
===========================================
#cockpit: Cockpit public meeting 2014-09-22
===========================================
Meeting started by puiterwijk at 15:01:46 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2014-09-22/cockpit.2014-09-22-15...
.
Meeting summary
- ---------------
* Welcome (puiterwijk, 15:01:57)
* Fedora 21 status (puiterwijk, 15:03:02)
* Fedora 21 Alpha is GO! (puiterwijk, 15:03:08)
* Alpha release tomorrow (september 23) (puiterwijk, 15:03:23)
* ACTION: mvollmer test selinux "known-hosts" fix and give karma
(mvollmer, 15:04:26)
* ACTION: mvollmer give karma to storaged 0.3.1 (mvollmer, 15:04:47)
* ACTION: everyone should check F21 out after release (puiterwijk,
15:04:56)
* Fedora 21 Beta freeze at October 14 (puiterwijk, 15:07:01)
* Fedora 21 Beta release (scheduled) October 28 (puiterwijk,
15:07:13)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule (puiterwijk,
15:09:03)
* ACTION: mvollmer puiterwijk to discuss wheel-setuid-helper with
stefw (puiterwijk, 15:16:47)
* integration tests run by default on Fedora 21 now (mvollmer,
15:18:06)
* CI Handover (puiterwijk, 15:20:02)
* ACTION: puiterwijk to check on the bridge at
files.cockpit-project.org (puiterwijk, 15:21:33)
* ACTION: puiterwijk to make vm-create -f cockpit work on files.cp.o
(puiterwijk, 15:23:12)
* ACTION: puiterwijk to bug people about ci.cp.o network move
(puiterwijk, 15:25:46)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/cockpit-devel/2014-September/000...
(puiterwijk, 15:30:07)
* Atomic status (puiterwijk, 15:31:18)
* LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc2NgotkfWE :-) (mvollmer,
15:39:28)
* LINK: http://www.brooksgroup.com/assets/2013/08/Round-tuit1.jpg
(puiterwijk, 15:40:43)
* What's cooking (puiterwijk, 15:41:41)
* SSO is about to be merged (puiterwijk, 15:42:16)
* Next steps in modular architecture (puiterwijk, 15:42:21)
* Making wheel work better (puiterwijk, 15:42:32)
* LINK:
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit-design/tree/master/navigation
(andreasn, 15:43:47)
* Navigation rework and small UI fixes underway (puiterwijk,
15:43:52)
* Open floor (puiterwijk, 15:45:49)
Meeting ended at 15:47:06 UTC.
Action Items
- ------------
* mvollmer test selinux "known-hosts" fix and give karma
* mvollmer give karma to storaged 0.3.1
* everyone should check F21 out after release
* mvollmer puiterwijk to discuss wheel-setuid-helper with stefw
* puiterwijk to check on the bridge at files.cockpit-project.org
* puiterwijk to make vm-create -f cockpit work on files.cp.o
* puiterwijk to bug people about ci.cp.o network move
Action Items, by person
- -----------------------
* mvollmer
* mvollmer test selinux "known-hosts" fix and give karma
* mvollmer give karma to storaged 0.3.1
* mvollmer puiterwijk to discuss wheel-setuid-helper with stefw
* puiterwijk
* mvollmer puiterwijk to discuss wheel-setuid-helper with stefw
* puiterwijk to check on the bridge at files.cockpit-project.org
* puiterwijk to make vm-create -f cockpit work on files.cp.o
* puiterwijk to bug people about ci.cp.o network move
* stefw
* mvollmer puiterwijk to discuss wheel-setuid-helper with stefw
* **UNASSIGNED**
* everyone should check F21 out after release
People Present (lines said)
- ---------------------------
* puiterwijk (88)
* mvollmer (68)
* andreasn (12)
* zodbot (9)
* sgallagh (0)
* stefw (0)
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With kind regards,
Patrick Uiterwijk
Associate Software Engineer, Red Hat
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8 years, 8 months
Re: * Cockpit * Fedora 21 Testday 16. 09. 2014
by Leos Pol
Hello folks,
I just want to thank to all participants for their contribution in today's testday. We've filled 25 bugs/rfe into the bugzilla and 5 more to the github. Outstanding job, guys.
@jscotka: thanks for promotion and coordination.
@cockpit-devel: feel free to mail me or jscotka any feedback regarding this testday.
And yeah, that was fun to try something new.
Regards,
Leo
On 12.9.2014 15:11, Jan Scotka wrote:
> Hi.
> There is planned Fedora testday for new feature:
>
> *** Cockpit ***
>
> It is new web Monitoring&Management interface (system, services, journal, network, storage, containers, users)
> http://cockpit-project.org/
>
> When: 16. 09. 2014
> Where: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-09-16_Cockpit
> #fedora-test-day at freenode
>
> It is easy to use.
> Come and test your favourite part. Bugs&RFEs are very welcomed.
>
> Thanks&Regards
> Honza
>
>
8 years, 8 months
Weekly IRC meeting today, Monday 15:00 UTC
by Andreas Nilsson
(last minute heads up, sorry for that)
Last weeks IRC meeting went great, so lets have one today too.
There is a nifty little CLI command you can run to get the corresponding
time in your own timezone:
date -d "15:00 UTC"
Or add Reykjavík as a location in GNOME Clocks. It's always UTC+0
See you in #cockpit on freenode.net!
- Andreas
8 years, 8 months
cockpit - pcp interop ideas
by Frank Ch. Eigler
Hi -
A few hours ago, some of the pcp[1] / cockpit[2] teams' folks talked about
possible interfacing scenarios.
[2] http://www.cockpit-project.org/
[1] http://www.pcp.io/
(For those with only experience of one, fedora rawhide is a good place
to get modern versions of the other.)
There appear to be three distinct interop cases.
1) replacing some cockpitd agent-side monitoring code with pcp
See cockpit.git src/daemon/*monitor.[ch]
and pcp.git e.g. src/pmval/pmval.c, %man pmapi.
This could consist of a small (<100 lines) amount of PMAPI code to
fetch statistics from a local pmcd or even (if the choice of stats
is suitable) via non-daemon PM_CONTEXT_LOCAL, replacing cockpit
code for polling kernel /proc files.
The RH perftools/pcp folks would be glad to quickly prototype this;
can the cockpit folks nominate one or two of the monitors?
PCP currently lacks good cgroup-level stats summarization, so that
part would need to be retained in cockpit, until pcp catches up.
2) using a pcp service for remote log archive access
The driving idea here is to make it possible for cockpit graphs
(normally updated at 1 Hz) to go back in time - to browse
historical stats.
PCP can already do central/remote logging (via pmlogger/pmmgr), and
discovery/scanning of pmcd targets (via pmmgr), whereby pmcd's that
start nearby are found and monitoring is automatically maintained.
Log archives may be rotated, subsampled, etc.
One complication is the service of that log archive data back out
on the network. (NFS-serving the archive files probably doesn't
count.) We have plans for a PMAPI wire-protocol level server for
archive data (like time-traveling pmcd), but that's some way out.
Shorter term, it is possible to use pmwebd to provide web access to
archive files. Its pmwebapi http/json api layer can feed data from
archives (and/or live pmcds), but is quite low level. Its graphite
http/json api emulation layer [3][4] can aggregate data from many
archives, but is quite new, inherently slower, and lacks
authentication. It could be a start though.
[3] http://graphite.readthedocs.org/en/1.0/url-api.html
[4] https://web.elastic.org/~fche/blog3/archive/2014/06/16/pcp-and-graphite-b...
Even shorter term, one could decree that a canonical cockpit/pcp
installation is one where the cockpit-ws console and
pcp-central-logging services are colocated, and thus the archive
files for all target hosts are immediately available.
3) teaching cockpit how to administer pcp installations
3.1) For pcp-dependent cockpit installations, the minimum would be
# yum install pcp
If a live pmcd is deemed necessary,
# {chkconfig,service} pmcd {on,start}
For remote access, firewalls ports (44321/tcp) to be opened;
optionally, pcp native acl files tweaked, and/or SASL
authentication rules setup.
3.2) management of central pcp logger
For canonical setups, a few more # yum/chkconfig/service type
operations will do the job, plus a few one-time config file
modifications. For the full range of control, long story.
- FChE
8 years, 8 months
Fwd: promote package updates and any fedora-related work on the Fedora Magazine
by Stephen Gallagher
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Subject: promote package updates and any fedora-related work on the
Fedora Magazine
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:15:51 -0400
From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch(a)redhat.com>
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora
<devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
<devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
If you are pushing an update to a package or application that contains
some major updates, consider promoting the release on the Fedora
Magazine. I have been trying to post some of these on the magazine in
recent months, but it would be awesome to get these written and queued
up before the package is released.
If you want to draft up a post, simply log into the Magazine using your
FAS account [1] and open a ticket in the marketing trac [2] and we can
add you as a contributor to the Fedora Magazine, so you can draft up a
post.
Alternatively, just open a ticket in the queue[2] with a few details of
the update or project that you want to promote, and someone will try to
get it written up and posted for you.
cheers,
ryanlerch
[1] - http://fedoramagazine.org/logging-into-fedora-magazine-with-fas/
[2] - https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/newticket
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8 years, 9 months
Meeting minutes for meeting on 2014-09-08
by Patrick Uiterwijk
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Hi all,
Here the meeting minutes for today's meeting.
The next meeting is at 2014-09-15, at 15:00 UTC.
To see the time in your local timezone, execute the following in a shell: date -d "september 15, 2014 15:00 UTC"
For the full meeting minutes, please look at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2014-09-08/cockpit.2014-09-08-15...
The summary follows:
Welcome (puiterwijk, 15:00:52)
Test day test cases (puiterwijk, 15:01:54)
People install F21 alpha on real hardware and are taking those risks, so we can also ask them to run Cockpit on real hardware. (mvollmer, 15:08:45)
we make a specific F21 image with the version of Cockpit we want to test (mvollmer, 15:10:32)
We prepare around ten test cases, and then ask people to go and explore. (mvollmer, 15:11:58)
two each of Basic (login, logout), Storage, Network, Docker. (mvollmer, 15:13:31)
Started by default should be tested in F21 Server (sgallagh, 15:14:08)
http://testdays.qa.fedoraproject.org/testdays/all_events (sgallagh, 15:18:11)
ACTION: mvollmer write tenish test cases as outlined above (mvollmer, 15:20:57)
ACTION: puiterwijk Get us listed in the testdays.qa.fedoraproject.org/testdays app (puiterwijk, 15:21:18)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Live_Image (puiterwijk, 15:25:26)
ACTION: sgallagh to spin a F21 Server install disc for the test day on September 16th (puiterwijk, 15:28:28)
Fedora 21 Status (puiterwijk, 15:32:37)
Fedora 21 Alpha is no-go for now -> One week slip (puiterwijk, 15:32:45)
Current scheduled Alpha release: September 16th (puiterwijk, 15:32:47)
ACTION: mvollmer file blocker bugs in Cockpit on Fedora bugzilla. (non-root / wheel situation, others) (mvollmer, 15:46:42)
ACTION: stefw to send email to the list regardining non-root/wheel situation (puiterwijk, 15:53:16)
ACTION: puiterwijk to put non-root/wheel on the agenda next week (puiterwijk, 15:53:25)
ACTION: mvollmer finally figure out what a hostname is and fix our dialog accordingly (mvollmer, 15:54:01)
Atomic feature review (puiterwijk, 15:55:26)
review from stefw and julim on Atomic feature pages came in, andreasn going through (puiterwijk, 15:56:33)
ACTION: mvollmer puiterwijk to read through atomic feature pages and tell andreasn if it's sane (puiterwijk, 15:57:11)
Open Floor (puiterwijk, 15:57:58)
people interested in attending conference on new navigation should contact andreasn (puiterwijk, 15:59:54)
http://files.cockpit-project.org/testdata/images/cockpit-fedora-20-x86_64... (stefw, 16:04:03)
ACTION: puiterwijk to look at slowness of files.cockpit-project.org network paths at times (puiterwijk, 16:08:18)
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With kind regards,
Patrick Uiterwijk
Associate Software Engineer, Red Hat
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8 years, 9 months
Meeting minutes for meeting on 2014-09-01
by Patrick Uiterwijk
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Hi all
Here the minutes for yet our second meeting!
Thanks to everyone who attended, and I look forward to seeing more people in these meetings, as they are public and everyone is welcome to chime in!
The next meeting is at September 8, 2014 at 15:00 UTC.
To see the time in your local timezone, execute the following in a shell: date -d "september 8, 2014 15:00 UTC"
For the full meeting minutes, please look at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/cockpit/2014-09-01/cockpit.2014-09-01-15...
The summary follows:
Welcome (puiterwijk, 15:00:20)
Today is Labor day in the US, so nobody from the US will be here probably (puiterwijk, 15:01:24)
Fedora 21 status (puiterwijk, 15:01:38)
Port change to 9090 in release 0.21, which is in Fedora 21 Alpha (puiterwijk, 15:02:34)
Cockpit 0.21 will be in the test composes used for test days (puiterwijk, 15:03:17)
Cockpit test day on 2014-09-16 (puiterwijk, 15:04:27)
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/issues/1099 (mvollmer, 15:09:03)
Normal releases to continue, and if something gets stuck for blocker process, patch that instead of new release (puiterwijk, 15:10:44)
Freezing Cockpit after F21 GA for updates, but still push new versions to updates-testing (puiterwijk, 15:16:51)
Beta freeze starts 2014-09-30 (puiterwijk, 15:21:43)
Translation freeze starts 2014-09-30 (puiterwijk, 15:22:01)
ACTION: puiterwijk to file RHBZ for #1099 and request freeze exception (puiterwijk, 15:28:51)
Dropping f20 for f21 (multi-os testing) (puiterwijk, 15:29:42)
Integration tests almost pass (puiterwijk, 15:30:57)
Regression with extended DOS partitions (puiterwijk, 15:31:06)
F20 support maybe to be dropped when we start supporting F21 (puiterwijk, 15:45:59)
ACTION: mvollmer to investigate DOS partitions bug in F21 (puiterwijk, 15:50:07)
F21 works better than hoped (puiterwijk, 15:51:21)
Fedora Infra has issues with mirror metalink, so sometimes updates might give lots of errors. Working on fixing that (puiterwijk, 15:53:27)
systemd + polkit (puiterwijk, 15:54:18)
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/dbus/ (stefw, 15:57:47)
major changes happening to systemd/polkit, maybe need to backport patches for systemd, libdbus, glib (puiterwijk, 16:02:11)
Look into adding a warning message on dashboard if logged in as non-root (puiterwijk, 16:07:47)
ACTION: andreasn to open issue on warning for non-root (puiterwijk, 16:08:03)
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/issues/1101 <- done (andreasn, 16:09:10)
ACTION: stefw to put a list of stuff that doesnt work as non-root in ticket #1101 (puiterwijk, 16:15:15)
Atomic features (puiterwijk, 16:15:23)
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/wiki/Atomic:-OSTree-Update (andreasn, 16:16:16)
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/wiki/Atomic:-Docker-Storage (andreasn, 16:18:24)
Two user stories for update stuff, let andreasn know if it's missing anything (puiterwijk, 16:18:41)
Three user stories for docker storage management (puiterwijk, 16:20:36)
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/wiki/Atomic:-Resource-Controls (puiterwijk, 16:20:53)
Two user stories for docker resource management, but missing stories for network and storage resources (puiterwijk, 16:24:48)
please review the user stories and provide feedback to Andreas (puiterwijk, 16:25:47)
Please post review comments on the user stories to the cockpit-devel mailing list (puiterwijk, 16:27:40)
vm-create on files.cockpit-project.org (puiterwijk, 16:28:38)
ACTION: puiterwijk to check into bridging net for RHEL6 to run vm-create on files.cockpit-project.org (puiterwijk, 16:31:09)
Open floor (puiterwijk, 16:32:52)
ACTION: mvollmer to check other test days and write some test cases (puiterwijk, 16:34:44)
Make sure to put "last weeks action points" on next weeks agenda (puiterwijk, 16:35:58)
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With kind regards,
Patrick Uiterwijk
Associate Software Engineer, Red Hat
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8 years, 9 months