Overall, I definitely like the idea of developing $PaaS on $IaaS narratives for Fedora, as we so often see that people using a cloud don't architect their apps for a cloud. Anything we can do to promote "proper" cloud apps is a good thing.

I don't know much about Openshift yet, but wonder if the FAD agenda should narrow it even more to start with -- I know OpenShift is designed to support multiple languages / frameworks, and perhaps it makes sense to start with one. In other words, the FAD goal is make sure that Fedora has a full narrative for setting up $IaaS and getting all the way to, say, a running Django app. At that point, substituting another framework is probably just a matter of pointing to another OpenShift example in github or the OpenShift docs.

(As you know, due to the proposed timeframe for this event, I'll be unlikely to travel for it. If it happens to be in NC, I'll attend in person; otherwise I'll participate remotely.)

Andy

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Garrett Holmstrom gholms@fedoraproject.org wrote:

Hi, Everyone,

Now that a lot of cloud software is in or on its way into Fedora, I wonder how easy it is to actually make use of it.  We seem to have installation guides, but not much about how to actually employ the cloud to do something useful.  For instance, now that OpenShift is on the feature list, Fedora's Cloud Guide could use some recipes for OpenShift images on, say, OpenStack and Eucalyptus.

So in the interest of Getting Things Done, I suggest that we gather for a high-bandwidth Fedora Activity Day to work on recipes for making the various bits of cloud software in Fedora work in concert (i.e. for making $PaaS work on $IaaS), and fix whatever bugs we encounter during the process.

Which of you are interested in attending such an event?  What would you like to work on there?  Specific goals are the most important thing to have when planning a FAD to make the day the most likely to result in something useful.

What do you all think?

-- Garrett Holmstrom _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud

On 06/18/2012 02:16 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:

Hi, Everyone,

Now that a lot of cloud software is in or on its way into Fedora, I wonder how easy it is to actually make use of it. We seem to have installation guides, but not much about how to actually employ the cloud to do something useful. For instance, now that OpenShift is on the feature list, Fedora's Cloud Guide could use some recipes for OpenShift images on, say, OpenStack and Eucalyptus.

So in the interest of Getting Things Done, I suggest that we gather for a high-bandwidth Fedora Activity Day to work on recipes for making the various bits of cloud software in Fedora work in concert (i.e. for making $PaaS work on $IaaS), and fix whatever bugs we encounter during the process.

Which of you are interested in attending such an event? What would you like to work on there? Specific goals are the most important thing to have when planning a FAD to make the day the most likely to result in something useful.

What do you all think?

-- Garrett Holmstrom

I suggest checking out Aeolus [1] as part of this as well. Its a software suite that we're developing for Fedora to enable cross cloud communication and compatibility.

I can help coordinate some hacking on and using Aeolus as part of this. We can add support for new cloud providers, develop some tools to launch instances against cloud providers, write up some docs, and more.

-Mo

[1] http://aeolusproject.org/