Hi all,
First mail to fedora-cloud, so I'll present myself as a Red Hat employee that contributes to Fedora in my free time.
Last week I contacted Major Hayden about $SUJECT and he suggested discussing it on the list, so here I am.
Some weeks ago I packaged `doctl`[1], the official CLI for DigitalOcean. Also sent a PR for `linode-cli`[2] and updated some Google API packages[3] to fix some other packages. Doing some new package reviews, I found Major was working on `vultr-cli`[4] for Vultr and `hcloud`[5] for Hetzner. I know he is also working on packaging major public cloud CLI and API packages.
For me having these packages, and others, improves user experience with Fedora, as we avoid users having to go GitHub or alike and download some binary while we also provide a way to keep them updated.
I wrote Major asking if a new SIG or sub-SIG (is this a thing?) for public cloud tools would be interesting and he pointed me to fedora-cloud for further discussion.
For me it is, as we could have the following:
- A SIG packager group that could ease permission assignment rather than have to go package by package or the need to be part of a larger group like go-sig to be able to maintain some of the packages. - A dashboard at packager-dashboard.fp.o to show the status of packages. - Single Point of Contact in case any of the providers wants to contact/suggest something about their tooling in Fedora.
I might be wrong due to ignorance, but I understand fedora-cloud as a SIG to provide Fedora in the clouds and that’s why I was suggesting a new SIG. If this effort can be part of fedora-cloud because it shares the mission, then I’m in the correct forum.
Kind regards, Mikel Olasagasti (mikelo2)
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/doctl [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/linode-cli/pull-request/1 [3] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/... [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015278 [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015296
On 11/18/21 5:39 AM, Mikel Olasagasti wrote:
Hi all,
Hi Mikel, Nice to meet you.
First mail to fedora-cloud, so I'll present myself as a Red Hat employee that contributes to Fedora in my free time.
Last week I contacted Major Hayden about $SUJECT and he suggested discussing it on the list, so here I am.
Some weeks ago I packaged `doctl`[1], the official CLI for DigitalOcean. Also sent a PR for `linode-cli`[2] and updated some Google API packages[3] to fix some other packages. Doing some new package reviews, I found Major was working on `vultr-cli`[4] for Vultr and `hcloud`[5] for Hetzner. I know he is also working on packaging major public cloud CLI and API packages.
For me having these packages, and others, improves user experience with Fedora, as we avoid users having to go GitHub or alike and download some binary while we also provide a way to keep them updated.
I agree. Thank you for packaging doctl.
I wrote Major asking if a new SIG or sub-SIG (is this a thing?) for public cloud tools would be interesting and he pointed me to fedora-cloud for further discussion.
For me it is, as we could have the following:
- A SIG packager group that could ease permission assignment rather
than have to go package by package or the need to be part of a larger group like go-sig to be able to maintain some of the packages.
- A dashboard at packager-dashboard.fp.o to show the status of packages.
- Single Point of Contact in case any of the providers wants to
contact/suggest something about their tooling in Fedora.
I might be wrong due to ignorance, but I understand fedora-cloud as a SIG to provide Fedora in the clouds and that’s why I was suggesting a new SIG. If this effort can be part of fedora-cloud because it shares the mission, then I’m in the correct forum.
This "effort" sounds amazing. I don't personally care if it is a new SIG or part of the cloud SIG. Unfortunately I don't have much to offer other than guidance and moral support. I can definitely help test the packages on the clouds I use too.
Either way thanks for reaching out and trying to build a community for this effort in Fedora.
Dusty
On 11/18/21 19:50, Dusty Mabe wrote:
This "effort" sounds amazing. I don't personally care if it is a new SIG or part of the cloud SIG. Unfortunately I don't have much to offer other than guidance and moral support. I can definitely help test the packages on the clouds I use too.
Either way thanks for reaching out and trying to build a community for this effort in Fedora.
Thanks for starting this conversation, Mikel! I agree with Dusty that this work is important whether it lives within the Cloud SIG or separately in Fedora. I could see many situations where a Fedora Workstation user would want access to these types of tools to make changes in their cloud deployment.
I'm super excited to make Fedora fit in well with more clouds by giving users the CLI tools and SDKs they need to pull data from their cloud deployment or make changes in it.
Should we make a wiki page of some sort with the ideas and goals? That might help us figure out where the work is best aligned. I'm happy to start on that.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 8:12 AM Major Hayden major@mhtx.net wrote:
On 11/18/21 19:50, Dusty Mabe wrote:
This "effort" sounds amazing. I don't personally care if it is a new SIG or part of the cloud SIG. Unfortunately I don't have much to offer other than guidance and moral support. I can definitely help test the packages on the clouds I use too.
Either way thanks for reaching out and trying to build a community for this effort in Fedora.
Thanks for starting this conversation, Mikel! I agree with Dusty that this work is important whether it lives within the Cloud SIG or separately in Fedora. I could see many situations where a Fedora Workstation user would want access to these types of tools to make changes in their cloud deployment.
I'm super excited to make Fedora fit in well with more clouds by giving users the CLI tools and SDKs they need to pull data from their cloud deployment or make changes in it.
Should we make a wiki page of some sort with the ideas and goals? That might help us figure out where the work is best aligned. I'm happy to start on that.
As a member of the Cloud SIG, I'd be super-happy to have this stuff come under our aegis. I think it totally makes sense and strengthens the value of what we offer to Fedora. I'm certain other members of the SIG would agree with me in saying that we'd love to see this happen under the Cloud SIG.
Mike, if you could file a ticket on the cloud-sig tracker[1], we can put it on the agenda for the next meeting.
[1]: https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issues
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