On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:14:57PM +0100, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
Le 22/11/2013 19:25, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
>On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 05:16:06PM +0100, H. Guémar wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>since i might be unable to join the cloud WG meeting, here are my thoughts
>>about it:
>>
>>1. Just Enough OS for developping SaaS applications in an agile & devops
>>fashion :).
>I think your response and mine are largely similar, but I don't think
>we want to limit to SaaS, do we? If someone wants to develop an
>application of any kind in public/private cloud, we want to be able to
>be the foundation for that.
My definition of SaaS is here quite large, it include every piece of
software that could benefit from elasticity (on-demand software,
scale-out applications etc...).
It could also be used as a building block for PaaS like OpenShift,
Clever Cloud, Heroku etc.
Ah, OK.
For sanity's sake, can we use industry definitions instead of coining
our own? SaaS == Software as a Service, e.g. Salesforce or Dropbox.
The difference is probably that i'd like to emphasize the devops
side, a bare image would bring little value to the existing.
In what ways? Not disagreeing, just looking for concrete ideas here.
>>2. developers *and* operators that develop and maintain SaaS
applications
>>(could be hosted on a cloud, virtualization server, etc...)
>Are we talking about the same thing, here? (SaaS)
SaaS is a delivery model, it could be hosted on virtualization
servers: from basic kvm/libvirt to full-fledged oVirt or vSphere.
Cloud hosting is commonly understood as IaaS/PaaS, but as a
developer, most of the time, development and testing is done on bare
metal & virtual machines.
Having exactely the very same image for
development/staging/production environment would be an improvement
of our target workflow.
We should learn from Vagrant success though it's not-so-good piece
of software, does solve an important issue to devops teams.
>Best,
>
>jzb
best regards,
H.
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