Feedback: Cloud image F20 TC2
by Juerg Haefliger
All,
I finally found the time to do some testing with the F20 image in HP
Cloud Beta which runs some sort of OpenStack Havana. Here are my
comments (which are obviously very OpenStack centric):
Overall it looks very sound. Good job, Matt!
As mentioned by others, logging could be improved. Currently, only
kernel messages are written to the (serial) console log. If something
goes wrong higher up in the stack (like cloud-init is unable to
contact the metadata service or a crucial initrd process fails) we
can't tell, unless there's access to the virtual console of the
instance which not every cloud operator provides. If we reverse the
'console' options of the kernel command line, we get those messages on
the serial console which helps with debugging boot issues. Also, I'm
not sure how useful the 115200n8 ttyS0 option is, it's a virtual port
after all. Lastly, Ubuntu uses console=tty1 instead of tty0 for
reasons explained in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1016695. I
admit I do not fully understand the impact of using tty1 (first
console) vs tty0 (foreground console) and neither do I think we need
to blindly copy Ubuntu but they are the cloud-init guys after all and
they do provide very solid OpenStack cloud images so it seems like
they know what they're doing :-) Given that, my proposal is to use the
following console kernel command line options: 'console=tty1
console=ttyS0'
I was quite surprised to learn that the image can be enlarged to 2TB.
Other images fail because the ext4 journal is too small. I haven't
looked into it in detail but do you use special parameters when
formatting the root partition?
...Juerg
9 years, 12 months
Fedora.next Product Branding for Cloud
by Máirín Duffy
Hi folks,
With the creation of 3 products for Fedora, the Fedora Design Team
anticipates many new questions around Fedora's brand. As the main
caretakers of the Fedora brand, we're going to have to figure these
things out within the next few months. For example, the Design Team is
starting to think about how to answer these types of questions:
• Should each product have its own logo? or
• Can you add our product to the Fedora website? or
• Can you make our product its own website? (How should we represent
these products on the website? Should we allow products to have their
own separate websites?)
To start off the rebranding discussion, the Fedora Design Team has 4
basic questions for each of the 3 product-focused working groups to answer:
(1) What problem does your product solve, in one sentence?
(2) Who is the target audience for your product, in one sentence?
(3) List at least 5 products that successfully target the same target
audience you are after.
(4) List at least 5 products that try to solve the same problem.
We are reaching out to each group individually to ask that you discuss
these questions and come back to us with answers by Wednesday, December
4, 2013.
I was hoping you could answer these questions for the cloud product;
please let me know if this isn't a reasonable timeline or if you need
any help coming up with the answers!
Thanks,
~m
9 years, 12 months
Fedora 20 TC5 AMIs
by Dennis Gilmore
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Hi all,
Final TC5 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at
ami-f9755890 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-1d7a5774 : us-east-1 image for x86_64
additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC5/Images/i386/Fedora-Image...
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC5/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Ima...
when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree
Dennis
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9 years, 12 months
Minutes from today's (12/04/2013) cloud WG meeting
by Haïkel
Thanks everyone who was able to make it to the meeting today! For those who
weren't able to make it, here are few important links:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-12-04/fedora-meeti...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-12-04/fedora-meeti...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-12-04/fedora-meeti...
Log (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-12-04/fedora-meeti...
Here's a summary of the meeting (link to the HTML and text versions above):
==========================================
#fedora-meeting-1: Cloud WG weekly meeting
==========================================
Meeting started by number80 at 17:02:17 UTC. The full logs are available
athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-12-04/fedora-mee...
.
Meeting summary
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* roll call (number80, 17:02:30)
* Release cadence and lifecyle (number80, 17:08:47)
* AGREED: cadence release to be monthly + trigger-based updates until
we're more confident on automated testing (rbergeron) (number80,
17:24:10)
* Product Branding (number80, 17:25:06)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/3 (number80, 17:25:30)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/3 a ticket has been
opened on our trac (number80, 17:25:41)
* AGREED: jzb will complete the ticket
https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/3 and forward it to the design
team (number80, 17:30:10)
* PRD (number80, 17:32:47)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/3 it hasn't changed much
(or at all) since last meeting (number80, 17:33:24)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_PRD (number80,
17:34:14)
* if PRD is still stuck next week, organize a mini-hackfest to fix
that (few hours) (number80, 17:42:53)
* AGREED: frankieonuonga taking lead on cloudstack/ jzb on
Release/Product Overview (number80, 17:44:09)
* Release criteria for post-F20 cloud images (number80, 17:50:57)
* ACTION: rbergeron to poke mr. neary re: personas (rbergeron,
17:50:57)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/4 trac ticket opened by
mattdm on that matter (+ discussion kickstarted on the list)
(number80, 17:51:54)
* AGREED: postponing the discussion about release criteria after F20
release (discussion could continue in the ticket) (number80,
17:59:35)
* Relation with server WG (number80, 18:01:16)
* AGREED: move the discussion about the cloud/server WG relation and
their overlap to the list (number80, 18:04:00)
* Openfloor (number80, 18:04:21)
* we have nightly qcow nightly builds thanks to Rel-eng
koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tree&method=appliance&or...
(number80, 18:04:56)
Meeting ended at 18:09:20 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* rbergeron to poke mr. neary re: personas
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* rbergeron
* rbergeron to poke mr. neary re: personas
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* number80 (92)
* rbergeron (52)
* frankieonuonga (31)
* mattdm (30)
* jzb (21)
* geppetto (7)
* zodbot (5)
* gholms (3)
* jzb_ (1)
Best regards,
H.
10 years
blurb for web site
by Matthew Miller
The web team asked me to come up with a blurb for a slide on
http://fedoraproject.org/.
Something like:
Cloud Computing with Fedora
Fedora's guest image makes the perfect foundation for your fast-moving
cloud project. Available in EC and other public cloud providers, and
for download in qcow2 and raw.xz formats for your private cloud.
Learn More >
?
--
Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
10 years