Fedora 中文組郵件列表 August 2010

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[FZH] twitter挂了？
by Chen Lei 08 Aug '10

08 Aug '10

如题

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[FZH] 有人对meego Handset(Tablet) UX有兴趣么？
by Chen Lei 07 Aug '10

07 Aug '10

如题，已经开始迁移到fedora 14中

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[FZH] Copr 似乎已经上线了
by Liang Suilong 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

Fedora 做了个类似 PPA 和 OBS Personal Repo 的东西。地址是在 http://repos.fedorapeople.org 暂时还没有给出具体办法如何开一个 copr 哦.. -- Fedora && Debian User, former Ubuntu User My Page: http://www.liangsuilong.info Fedora Project Contributor -- Packager && Ambassador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Liangsuilong

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[FZH] mirror.bjtu.edu.cn增加rpmfusion
by ideal 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

大家好，我在 mirror.bjtu.edu.cn 上面增加了rpmfusion的镜像，在 http://mirror.bjtu.edu.cn/rpmfusion ，欢迎使用。目前从 download1.rpmfusion.org 同步，一天同步两次。 Best regards, Ideal

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[FZH] #U Fwd: [Bug 620615] New: fedora 13 yum update 后系统中文字体变得没有原来清楚了。很模糊。
by Tian Shixiong 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <bugzilla(a)redhat.com> Date: 2010/8/3 Subject: [Bug 620615] New: fedora 13 yum update 后系统中文字体变得没有原来清楚了。很模糊。 To: fedora-trans-zh_cn(a)redhat.com Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: fedora 13 yum update 后系统中文字体变得没有原来清楚了。很模糊。 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620615 Summary: fedora 13 yum update 后系统中文字体变得没有原来清楚了。很模糊。 Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: i386 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: high Priority: low Component: Chinese Simplified [zh_CN] AssignedTo: tiansworld(a)gmail.com ReportedBy: xoxxyy(a)163.com QAContact: tiansworld(a)gmail.com CC: fedora-trans-zh_cn(a)redhat.com Estimated Hours: 0.0 Classification: Fedora Description of problem: fedora 13 刚安装好系统的中文字体非常清楚。但是 yum update 后系统中文字体变得没有原来清楚了。很模糊。 Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: yum update Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: 字体不清楚了 Expected results: 与刚安装时中文系统字体一样清楚就好 Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- trans-zh_cn mailing list trans-zh_cn(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans-zh_cn

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[FZH] D dist-git 的用法
by Liang Suilong 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

这两天 Fedora 的 VCS 会从 CVS 切换到 GIT，原来的 CVS 目录如果各位 packager 要更新已有的包，请参考 Jesse Keating 这份邮件教学吧！ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> Date: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Fedora 14 branching and dist-git roll out To: devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/29/2010 11:10 AM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On 07/29/2010 02:04 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: >> Over 10K repos have been converted, but I do have to run a script over >> those repos and make sure the conversion actually "succeeded". We've >> also gotten dist-f14, dist-f13, dist-f12, and el6 in a state that we can >> build with, however we do have to do some bootstrapping of el4/5. I >> have yet to look at OLPC-2/3. > > This may be a dumb question (I'm full of dumb questions sometimes), but > is there any documentation available on how to use the new setup? Even > something as simple as pasting the new command equivalents (both with > fedpkg and with git, if possible) for things like: > > * cvs checkout libfoo > * cvs commit -m 'updated to libfoo 1.3' . > * cd F-13 && make tag && BUILD_FLAGS="--nowait" make build > > Thanks, > > ~spot I keep asking for help with this, but it looks like I my have to write it all myself, which make take a while... But for the typical tasks here we go: I want to build a new libfoo for rawhide: fedpkg clone libfoo cd libfoo <edit files> fedpkg commit <input commit message> fedpkg push (this step could be skipped with "fedpkg commit -p") fedpkg build I want to build a new libfoo for Fedora 13: Option A: fedpkg clone -b f13 libfoo cd libfoo Option B: fedpkg clone libfoo cd libfoo fedpkg switch-branch f13 Option C: fedpkg clone -B libfoo cd libfoo/f13/ I want to import an srpm to my repo libfoo cd libfoo/ fedpkg import <path.to.srpm> <review changes> fedpkg commit -p I want to upload new sources (replacing existing ones) cd libfoo/ fedpkg new-sources <file> [<file> <file>] I want to add a new source file without replacing others cd libfoo/ fedpkg upload <file> [<file> <file>] Grabbing a recent fedora-packager build from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5409 and running fedpkg --help, then fedpkg <target> --help will give you a better idea of what targets are available and how they can be used. If somebody wants to take the above and start working on wiki pages, please do so. I beg you! - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxRx6YACgkQ4v2HLvE71NXdxACeNa4nS5rcpeeXzJfwzzYK+/oA wCAAn1VTCnjfpZDs/2I+E46jDzucL7PL =UAPo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Fedora && Debian User, former Ubuntu User My Page: http://www.liangsuilong.info Fedora Project Contributor -- Packager && Ambassador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Liangsuilong

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[FZH] Mel is coming
by Tommy He 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Fedora 社区又一牛人 Mel 女士准备到北京和上海访问，和大陆地区的 Fedora 爱好者、贡献者们讨论 Fedora 的发展方向以及资源协调，同时 gbraad 也会到场。目前行程初步计划是周一下午在北京，若是有时间在周四周五可以和上海地区的朋友聊聊。具体的时间地点正在商议，总归是下班后滴~ 关注 Fedora 发展的朋友，这段时间别忘记察看 IRC 频道哦，很多讨论会发生在那里。同时欢迎到场讨论的同学在 IRC 直播，免去因各种原因无法到场的朋友们的遗憾。此致敬礼黑日白月附： Mel 女士大陆行原文： I’m about to board a plane to Shanghai – I’ll be in China for a week devoting my time towards building up Fedora activities and presence in the region. If you’re in FZUG, in the area, or interested in the region, please let me know! I will be in #fedora-zh all week (I usually lurk there anyway) and trying to improve my (very basic) Mandarin skills, but will probably need a lot of translation help. This trip was originally supposed to be a POSSE (more on that later) but that was unexpectedly canceled at the last moment – it’s actually a good thing, though, because we’ll have more of a chance to get to know what’s happening in the area. One area I’m personally interested in is education, mostly at the college level – for instance, it would be great to see a POSSE (workshop for professors interested in getting their students involved as contributors to open source communities) in China sometime in the next two years, and I would love to talk with people about how we can make this happen. However, my first priority on this trip are the Ambassadors and folks working on the ground for Fedora in the region. How can we do a better job of getting you resources, how can we get more publicity on Planet and Ambassadors-list regarding what is happening in the region? Do we have a lot of packagers, or translators, of $SKILLSET in the region that we should organize a FAD around? Who should we talk to? Where should we go? Do people want to meet up for dinner some evening? In other words, what are Linux users in China passionate about, and how can Fedora help them? Blank slate. Kaio 牛的翻译：我快要登上飞到上海的班机了 – 我将会把在中国一个星期，奉献在建立 Fedora 在中国的活动及普及上。如果您是 FZUG (Fedora 中文用户组)、身在中国、或者有兴趣的话，请告诉我！我将会整个星期都在 #fedora-zh 上 (其实我早就一直潜伏在那里了) 并尝试改进我 (非常基本) 的中文水平，大概需要大量的翻译协助。这次行程本来应该是为了 POSSE (稍后将会更多) 可是没有预料到在最后一刻取消了 – 最后成了一件好事，因为我们可以籍此机会去了解 Fedora 在中国发生的事情。我个人对教育很有兴趣，尤其是高中及大学层次的 – 期望 POSSE (教授们鼓励他们的学生参与开源社区，的工作室) 末来两年内在中国开设，我非常乐意跟大家讨论怎样把它实现。然而，我此次行程的首要任务是联系大使们及其他在国内为 Fedora 付出的朋友。我们如何在为你们提供资源的时候做得更好？我们如何把 Fedora 在国内发生的种种，在 Planet 及大使邮件列表上得到更多知名度？我们有没有足够数量的打包者、翻译者、拥有 [填上有关技术] 让我们组织在各地区举办 FAD ？我们应该跟谁接洽？我们何去何从？有谁要约出来一起吃顿晚饭呢？换句话说，中国的 Linux 用户热衷的是什么，Fedora 如何支持他们？毫无头绪。 -- Take a Deep Breath out of Windows

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[FZH] F13 下的VirtualBox怎么设置USB?
by 严晶涛 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

按照网上的说法，建立了usbfs，在fstab中也添加了，不是OSE版的。也把当前用户添加到vboxusers了。。。不知道该怎么弄了。。。在设置中也把要启用的USB设备勾上了，但是，启动虚拟机后，分配USB设备展开是灰色的。。。郁闷了。。。 -- 此致严晶涛

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[FZH] Fedora China: Operation Raptor-Proofing
by Tommy He 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Mel 女士已经来到大陆，将在北京待到周三，之后从周三下午待到周六早晨。更多的安排即将后续揭晓。Mel 女士不辞旅途劳苦，在博客上撰文分析了目前 Fedora 在中国地区的问题，准备在接下来的一周里与 Fedora 中国贡献者爱好者们讨论。先简述如下： 0. 只有一个大使导师。这点限制了中国区大使的发展，影响了 Fedora 的品牌知名度。预计解决方案：增加大使导师的数量。 1. 中国区的宣传材料很少。T-shirts 等材料在中国的制作分发很便宜，但是进口很贵。预计解决方案：在中国区域内寻找 Fedora 宣传材料的制造。根据亚洲区大使的情况来看，材料的管理也需要注意。 2. 语言障碍。中英文差异是原因，但不是借口，参加其他语言 Fedora 社区的发展。预计解决方案：增加中国区和其他地区的交流机会。 3. 在中国接触到开源解决方案的人很少。有能力的人很多，但是知道如何和社区和上游协作的人不多。预计解决方案：提供更多接触到其他地区开源贡献者的机会，让本土的开发者更多的了解开源的工作方式。更多内容请参考原文： First of all, thank you to Kaio for translating my earlier blog post, and to everyone who’s responded – on the original post, the translation, IRC, and the Fedora Chinese mailing list – I’m about to fall asleep (jetlag) but will sit down and reply to everybody when I wake up tomorrow morning. My schedule in China is starting to settle down a bit – I am in Beijing from today (Sunday) until Wednesday afternoon, and in Shanghai from Wednesday evening until Saturday morning when I fly back to the US. If you’re involved with or interested in Fedora or even FOSS in general, and you are in either of these two cities, I’d love to meet with you; propose times, dates, and locations and I’ll continue to blog here every day I’m in China. Today I spent the afternoon with Gerard Braad and his wife Shan, who graciously helped with travel logistics (have you ever tried to book a hotel via a website in a language you don’t know?) showed me around Beijing and told me about their perspective on the situation. We have an overarching goal for this week: RAPTOR-PROOF FEDORA EFFORTS IN CHINA. What this means is that we need to spread and scale the knowledge here that we have about how to participate in the Fedora community so that if any one person is eaten by a raptor, the Chinese Fedora community is still ok. Right now, the burden lies on too few shoulders – so few that one person getting the flu could seriously bottleneck efforts the entire country. Clearly, this must change! The major raptor-proofing problems we have identified, and potential solutions we’ll be working on this week: 0. There is only one regional Ambassador mentor, so it is very difficult to grow Ambassador presence (and hence Fedora brand awareness) in China. Strong mentoring is particularly important here; Chinese culture is considerably from existing FOSS subcultures, so teaching new Ambassadors about upstream communication may take a lot of time and patience. Solution: identify and train multiple potential Ambassador mentors. 1. There are few materials (swag/media) in China. This includes things like t-shirts and LiveCDs, the latter being tremendously important in a country with slow download speeds, fickle connectivity, and firewalls. The price of manufacturing and distribution within China is very cheap, and the price (and difficulty) of importing them from elsewhere is very high, so it makes sense to make these things in-country, but it has been difficult for Chinese Ambassadors to get financial resources from Fedora. Solution: Get small quantities of physical media of all sorts (pens, stickers, CDs, etc) to China and have them duplicated; Chinese factories are fantastic at making copies, and it’s easier to hand someone an item to copy than to go back and forth with written specifications describing it. Also look into the state of the queue via which APAC Ambassadors are supposed to be requesting resources; who maintains it? Is it well-understood and publicized? Is there a clear process by which Ambassadors can find the status and expected response time of their requests? 2. The language barrier is a red herring. Yes, the Chinese-English language barrier makes things more difficult, and we should encourage and cultivate participation in (the various forms of) Chinese so people can work in their native tongue, and improve the cross-communications between the Chinese and English (and other-language) speaking parts of the Fedora community – BUT it’s not a blocker and we shouldn’t use it as an excuse. Solution: Set up opportunities to cross-collaborate between China and other region, THEN use that existing collaboration to drive linguistic crossover, rather than always planning things the other way around. We’ll try to start with a MIPS FAD centered around Beijing; more on this later. 3. There are very few people in China with exposure to the open source way of doing things – there are many people with the technical ability to contribute, but few who know how to do that work in the context of a FOSS community and push their work upstream. Solution: See #2, with an emphasis on getting people to meet other strong contributors from outside their region. Can we bring some MIPS hackers from China out to January 2011’s Tempe FUDCon to present their work to NA contributors? Can we send EMEA Ambassadors to APAC events? Also, Ambassadors can focus on getting individual people started in the community; it’s easy to find, request, and use resources once you know it’s easy (people tend to have the ungrounded perception that it’s hard, because they don’t know what the process is). Other topics on the table: * Major dates for media availability in China: Software Freedom Day (September 2010) and F14 release day (November 2010). We’ll treat the first event as a test run for how to do media production in China, so the second one will be a simple “just do the same thing again” execution. * Marketing and Ambassadors in China in general, and the relationship between the multiple groups and people involved in one or both. * Fedora-zh community infrastructure hosting. Where can this be done? Right now, everything except the IRC channel (#fedora-zh) and mailing list is scattered in an undocumented manner across individual uncoordinated VPS accounts that cost a tremendous amount of money relative to the average Chinese salary, so it’s a fragile network that is in danger of disappearing with no backup. * Getting introduced to existing Fedora contributors in the region, both online and in person, and trying to understand the network of contributors in China, and articulate the structure of that network and the culture it works within back out to the broader Fedora community, along with what work is being done here. Thoughts? Other things we need to add to the agenda? We’ll be in #fedora-zh (irc.freenode.net) all week if you want to talk or find out what’s happening in the region; I’m mchua and Gerard is gbraad, and there are plenty of others in the channel who can fill you in on what they’re doing as well. You don’t need to speak Chinese to hang out in #fedora-zh (I sure don’t!) There are many people there who understand English, and some of us also understand other languages as well, so please come on in and join us and lurk; we’ll be posting and logging conversations there throughout the week. -- Take a Deep Breath out of Windows

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