Fedora 中文組郵件列表 August 2010

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[FZH] Fwd: Speed up user login into desktop.
by Yu Chen 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

这个，gnome session还是可以整合到systemd中的，另外这个不由的让人联想到前段时间的guadec上抛出的gnomeos http://derstandard.at/1277339203446/Ausblick-GNOME-40-Das-GNOME-OS ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lennart Poettering <mzerqung(a)0pointer.de> Date: 2010/8/20 Subject: Re: Speed up user login into desktop. To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop < desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> On Fri, 20.08.10 03:52, Lennart Poettering (mzerqung(a)0pointer.de) wrote: > systemd is very generic low-level code, so there shouldn't be a > technical barrier for other DEs adopting it too, and I'd welcome this > very much. However, there are certain political issues that will make > adoption by other DEs difficult: for one, systemd is Linux > specific. While in the GNOME world the idea that Linux is the only OS > that matters is kinda popular these days I assume that other > DEs care much more about niche OSes (hey, and KDE even cares about > Windows!). > > Also, regardless of the DE there is still that distro with the 3 Us in > its name which is unlikely to adopt systemd. Tying systemd into GNOME > and the other DEs would probably cement what they are already doing: > forking GNOME and maintaining things independently of upstream. > > So, in summary, this is something to push forward very carefully, and as > of now neither the technical nor the political preconditions have been > figured out how to do this best. Let me clarify this: if we adopt systemd for the session we need to do that in a way that is acceptable for the other OSes/distros which cannot or don't want to adopt systemd. We don't want to drive them away from contributing to GNOME upstream. It's a tightrope walk between innovating here and not breaking too much glass in the cooperation between th major players in GNOME land. I do have a few ideas how to do this best, but this needs more thinking. i.e. in the long run we probably want to merge a lot of the CK functionality into systemd, and move some stuff currently done in gnome-session into it. We should do this in a way that Solaris and Ubuntu can still continue to use the current CK implementation and the current code in g-s, and both can still be considered GNOME. But anyway, I don't like to talk too much about great plans for the distant future, and focus more on what we can do right now. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- desktop mailing list desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- Yu

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[FZH] Fwd: Speed up user login into desktop.
by Yu Chen 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

哇，systemd 要和 gnome 整合起来。 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lennart Poettering <mzerqung(a)0pointer.de> Date: 2010/8/20 Subject: Re: Speed up user login into desktop. To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop < desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> On Thu, 19.08.10 22:32, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johannbg(a)gmail.com) wrote: > > On 08/19/2010 10:05 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > In the long run I want to make gnome use systemd for session management, > > so that the same parallelization techniques we use for system boot can > > be used for session startup as well. > > Are other *DE ( KDE XFCE LXDE Sugar etc ) being kept in the loop so they > can take advantage of the parallelization techniques ? Well, I consider myself a GNOME developer, and that's my focus. systemd is very generic low-level code, so there shouldn't be a technical barrier for other DEs adopting it too, and I'd welcome this very much. However, there are certain political issues that will make adoption by other DEs difficult: for one, systemd is Linux specific. While in the GNOME world the idea that Linux is the only OS that matters is kinda popular these days I assume that other DEs care much more about niche OSes (hey, and KDE even cares about Windows!). Also, regardless of the DE there is still that distro with the 3 Us in its name which is unlikely to adopt systemd. Tying systemd into GNOME and the other DEs would probably cement what they are already doing: forking GNOME and maintaining things independently of upstream. So, in summary, this is something to push forward very carefully, and as of now neither the technical nor the political preconditions have been figured out how to do this best. > What are the plans regarding plymouth since the boot will be so fast? > ( Feels kinda pointless having any kind of animation during startup ) Well, if people plug more stuff into their boot, run all kinds of inet servers, and other stuff, or have slower hw/rotating media, or have a crypto fs plymouth will very much be needed. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- desktop mailing list desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- Yu

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[FZH] 163 已经提供 rpmfusion 源
by Liang Suilong 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

如题，并且 163 源有双线线路支持。。联通和电信的线路。 -- Fedora && Debian User, former Ubuntu User My Page: http://www.liangsuilong.info Fedora Project Contributor -- Packager && Ambassador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Liangsuilong

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[FZH] 欢迎您的加入
by Tian Shixiong 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

2010/8/17 陈峰 <abking76(a)yahoo.com.cn> > 我从事系统工程师职业已有10年。对于AIX、Oracle数据库的管理和优化有较为丰富的经验。经历过大型工程建设。另外，对于软件开发也有些许了解。 > 以前在大学时研读过80386保护模式编程方面的书籍。 > > 谢谢！ > > > > > > 2010/8/17 陈峰 <abking76(a)yahoo.com.cn<http://cn.mc157.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=abking76@yahoo.com.cn> > > > > 是否有什么任务可以分配给我？我是一个新手，想为互联网、linux做些贡献。刚刚开始起步，可能只能做点小事。 > > 谢谢！ > > > 先介绍下自己吧，另外说说你想参与哪方面的贡献(比如开发、打包、翻译、美工？)。 > 请不要回复邮件摘要。 > > > -- > Tiansworld > > 欢迎您！您一开始发送邮件到 trans-zh_cn(a)lists.fedoraproject.org ，这是 fedora 翻译项目的中文邮键列表。关于 Fedora 的项目，您可以看看 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join 这里，这里比较详细的介绍了 Fedora 相关的项目，同时还有如何为 Fedora 贡献的说明和文档，以及交流途径。另外为了您能更快的了解 Fedora 项目，建议您查看或者发邮件到 chinese@lists.fedoraproject.org这个邮件列表(我已经将本邮件同时发送到了该列表。也有朋友回复了)，这是 Fedora 中文用户的一个列表，这个邮件列表中有很多活跃的 Fedora 开发、维护、测试人员还有爱好者。您可以在这里跟大家咨询、讨论更多关于 Fedora 各个方面的内容。如果您使用 IRC 的话，您还可以加入 Fedora 中文用户频道： #fedora-zh P.S. 小弟我目前主要从事 Fedora 的翻译工作，如果您对翻译有兴趣，在下乐意效劳。谢谢 -- Tiansworld

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Re: [FZH] 回复： trans-zh_cn 摘要, 卷 42, 发布 4
by Tian Shixiong 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

2010/8/17 陈峰 <abking76(a)yahoo.com.cn> > 是否有什么任务可以分配给我？我是一个新手，想为互联网、linux做些贡献。刚刚开始起步，可能只能做点小事。 > > 谢谢！ > 先介绍下自己吧，另外说说你想参与哪方面的贡献(比如开发、打包、翻译、美工？)。请不要回复邮件摘要。 -- Tiansworld

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[FZH] #U 知识管理
by humingx 13 Aug '10

13 Aug '10

日常学习工作中，总会用到各种各样的技术知识，个人有总结的习惯，比如JS心得，JAVA的一些开发，Fedora开发使用的一些体会。东西多了，总要记下来，下次碰到这种问题就可以直接找以前的笔记了。有时候写写博客，但写博的话始终找不到一个合适的BLOG，用wordpress之类的东西管理网站太麻烦了，而且有时候网速不行，那是相当郁闷。现在用的是word，总觉得排版是一个相当痛苦的事情，还有就是对于代码，想要高亮显示，缺少一些插件，不得以用“样式”或者VBA。各位在网上写书或者翻译文档的话，一般都用什么工具？或者有什么更好的知识管理的建议，敬请指教。 -- 日出而作，日落而息

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[FZH] #D ，Gtkmm App在win平台的本地化
by Yu Chen 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

如何让 gtkmm 程序按照 win 的语言设定使用对应的界面语言？ google 了一番，找不到头绪。有没有谁做过的给个提示。谢谢了。 -- Yu

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[FZH] intel无线网卡的问题
by david ki 11 Aug '10

11 Aug '10

最近安装了fedora 13，不过却出了一点点的小问题。我的无线网卡是intel 3945abg，在ubuntu下面能够正常工作，没有任何问题。但是在fedora下面networkmanager中却显示无线网络没有被启用。在网上找了很多方法都不起作用，在终端中输入lspci，发现能够正确识别出网卡，应该也不是驱动的问题。哪位仁兄知道怎么解决这个问题吗？

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by wmabklre 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

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[FZH] #U 触摸板禁止问题，gpointing-device-config失效
by cheng chen 09 Aug '10

09 Aug '10

我新买了一台华硕的电脑，触摸板能够被识别但是关不掉，我在终端输入 "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"。得到一下被是识别出来的信息： I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0005 Version=0063N: Name="ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse" P: Phys=isa0060/serio4/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input7 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse2 event7 B: EV=7 B: KEY=70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B: REL=103 是不是gpointing-device-config把触摸板识别为一般鼠标了？问一下怎么样手动禁止触摸板？谢谢~ -- Cheng(�) Fedora User My Page: http://scienologies.blogspot.com http://gnudam.webgarden.com Fedora Project Contributor -- Ambassador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Freakrobot _______________________________________________ Chinese mailing list Chinese at lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chinese

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Fedora 中文組郵件列表 August 2010