In my opinion it's not sad, it's just not "perfect", but the Fedora word is spreaded.

This kind of work is encouraged by the core of the project, to help the spread Fedora around the world.

Alejandro, I agree with you, when you say that an Ambassador need to contribute in the oficial page and wiki,
but is not prohibited to keep i.e. a paralel website with the local context, to help this work, this kind of work is even done in the
other regions of the world, including our own with other local domains.

Everyone that like Fedora, wherever this guy lives in the world can spread Fedora it's cool, i really appreciate it in the community,
but when someone agree to represent "officially" and agree with the terms, this implies to do it responsibly, and respecting the rules imposed,
and this website don't broke the standards imposed for such work.

AFAIK, at least 4 FPL knew of this work here (and in other places), and others guys from board, and never said some word against.
Why? Because it's help everyone, it's help Fedora to have a better reach in local communities,  helps to attract colaborators.

Int the is explicited that it's not an official site, and not say that represent officially the community.
The artwork was made by a guy from artwork following the guidelines.


So, I fully agree with you and everyone else, when the arguments are:

* This websites are outdated. Let's improve!!
* The art it's not cool. Let's change!!
* Let's migrate the domains and infrastructure to the community to have a full administrations and it's never die. Sure!!!

But say that it's *bad*, *sad*, *evil*, I completely disagree.
This work is made to help Fedora better, and don't broke any rule. It's allowed.
Even the website makes it clear that the site is unofficial, and indicate the official address.



On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Alejandro Pérez <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com> wrote:
It is sad to see that we show on fisl and unofficial site on the Banner,
I think it was because the Banner already existed and no new banner was
created for fisl. So for next event please create a ticket for a new
Banner that reference the official site.

You need to understand that the community is greater than Brazil, that
when we use the Fedora Blue polo or when we talk on at event about
Fedora we represent a world wide community not only the Brazil, your
country or your language. That is the main issue, you are working as
this is Brazil only, but it is not.

Been a Fedora Ambassador for your country means that you represent the
world wide Fedora Community in your country or city. This mean you need
to support Fedora Official site, if there is a site for your country as
many local teams has, it may serve for special purposes but it implies
that it must follow the rules of the global community.

Having small letter saying that it is not official or do not represent
the global community does not exonerate from it if you are using the
Fedora logos colors.

Moreover this site has been listed on the oficial site as the official
site for the local community of Brazil. Witch at this point it is not.

El jue, 11-07-2013 a las 17:37 -0400, Lenno Azevedo escribió:
> Em 11 de julho de 2013 16:06, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas
> <ribeirodantasdm@gmail.com> escreveu:
>         Em 11 de julho de 2013 18:02, Marcelo Barbosa
>         <firemanxbr@fedoraproject.org> escreveu:
>
>                 este é o motivo que eu não contibuo com o site, não
>                 divulgo e não acesso também.
>         É, na verdade é exatamente esse meu ponto de vista também. Eu
>         tento direcionar meus esforços e contribuições para o que é
>         reconhecido como parte oficial do projeto. Enquanto isso não
>         se regularizar, continuarei a desencorajar o uso e não
>         colaborar.
>
>
> Disseram que não contribuem para o site, mas estavam lá no FISL14 com
> o banner do Projeto Fedora Brasil, com o endereço:
> "www.projetofedora.org"
>
>
> E desencorajar as pessoas, acho que não é atitude de embaixador do
> Projeto Fedora. O projetofedora.org existe pra ajudar os usuários
> brasileiros e não para desencorajar a ninguem.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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>
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