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jlaska | okay ... QA folks, sorry for the switch :( ... let's continue this in #fedora-qa | mei 27 19:04 |
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*mbacovsk (n=mbacovsk@82.117.156.243) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:05 | |
biertie | ok, let's start the fedora-be meeting then | mei 27 19:05 |
biertie | let's start with a rolecall? | mei 27 19:06 |
*cyberpear heeft verlaten (Remote closed the connection) | mei 27 19:06 | |
biertie | .fas biertie | mei 27 19:06 |
zodbot | biertie: biertie 'Bert Desmet' <bert@devnox.be> | mei 27 19:06 |
*benedictus Ben Lambrechts | mei 27 19:07 | |
ChitleshGoorah | Chitlesh Goorah | mei 27 19:07 |
biertie | only 3 people? :( | mei 27 19:08 |
biertie | hmm, ok | mei 27 19:08 |
biertie | let's start with the agenda: | mei 27 19:09 |
biertie | 1. the new fedora-be website | mei 27 19:09 |
biertie | 2. a fedora-be ral life meeting | mei 27 19:09 |
*linuxguru (n=linuxgur@unaffiliated/linuxguru) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:09 | |
*mcepl (n=mcepl@nezmar.jabbim.cz) heeft #fedora-meeting verlaten | mei 27 19:09 | |
biertie | 3. fedora 11 release | mei 27 19:09 |
mars_ | wait | mei 27 19:09 |
mars_ | i'm here too | mei 27 19:09 |
biertie | np :) | mei 27 19:09 |
biertie | 4. linux-tag | mei 27 19:10 |
biertie | and 5. varia | mei 27 19:10 |
Bouska | Pablo Martin-Gomez | mei 27 19:10 |
biertie | ok, let's start with the first point | mei 27 19:10 |
benedictus | will the fedora-be be a separate project than fedora-wiki? | mei 27 19:11 |
ChitleshGoorah | is it important for the website to be off the fedora-wiki ? | mei 27 19:11 |
benedictus | no | mei 27 19:11 |
benedictus | I think that is a bad idea | mei 27 19:11 |
mars_ | to seperate it? | mei 27 19:11 |
biertie | yes, we want a separate website, with some basic information about 'who are we', where can you find us and such | mei 27 19:12 |
benedictus | integrate with the wik is best | mei 27 19:12 |
ChitleshGoorah | how bad ? | mei 27 19:12 |
biertie | so I think a separate website would be better? | mei 27 19:12 |
mars_ | i think seperate would be better too | mei 27 19:12 |
mars_ | if we do not seperate there is no use for it | mei 27 19:12 |
benedictus | ok | mei 27 19:12 |
benedictus | who will maintain this site? | mei 27 19:12 |
mars_ | thats what I think :p | mei 27 19:12 |
ChitleshGoorah | biertie: think future. In a few years everyone will be busy with or without fedora development | mei 27 19:12 |
biertie | I am a web developer, so I can maintain it.. | mei 27 19:13 |
ChitleshGoorah | but the maintainance of an off-site website will be a burden | mei 27 19:13 |
mars_ | i'm a web developer too | mei 27 19:13 |
*vincentvdk (n=vincent@ip-81-11-175-240.dsl.scarlet.be) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:13 | |
biertie | but I'm not a designer, so I need someone else to create a cool design :) | mei 27 19:13 |
vincentvdk | hi | mei 27 19:13 |
mars_ | I do designs | mei 27 19:13 |
benedictus | I thinkt design must be as fedora-like as possible | mei 27 19:13 |
mars_ | yes I agree | mei 27 19:13 |
biertie | yes, I totaly agree with that | mei 27 19:14 |
mars_ | people should see the connection | mei 27 19:14 |
benedictus | who will buy the domain? | mei 27 19:14 |
ChitleshGoorah | a nice well maintain wiki page is enough | mei 27 19:14 |
biertie | well, that's the point of a loco site I think? | mei 27 19:14 |
ChitleshGoorah | do we need to use foreign words "loco" :) | mei 27 19:15 |
vincentvdk | we can use a simple CMS like frogcms | mei 27 19:15 |
benedictus | drupal an joomla! are very nice too | mei 27 19:15 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: but I think a wiki page on fedoraproject.org is invisible for most people | mei 27 19:15 |
mars_ | i've never used any of them so i wouldn't know :d | mei 27 19:15 |
mars_ | but | mei 27 19:15 |
biertie | benedictus: ik won't use Joomla! ;-) | mei 27 19:15 |
mars_ | why not? | mei 27 19:15 |
ChitleshGoorah | biertie: why not be.fedoraproject.org ? if fedora infrastructure agrees :) | mei 27 19:16 |
vincentvdk | I don't like Joomla either | mei 27 19:16 |
ChitleshGoorah | the problem is not only for belgium but for ambassadors for other countries too | mei 27 19:16 |
ChitleshGoorah | the chosen solution should be : | mei 27 19:16 |
biertie | I think drupal would be a good choiche, but I never worked with that before | mei 27 19:16 |
ChitleshGoorah | - software from the fedora collection | mei 27 19:17 |
ChitleshGoorah | - a solution that ambassadors of other countries can use as well (thus they will use your solutions as example) | mei 27 19:17 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: what software do you suggest then? | mei 27 19:17 |
ChitleshGoorah | for me it is not the software that matters , but the fear that every ambassador around the world will do something else | mei 27 19:18 |
benedictus | What will be the language of the site | mei 27 19:19 |
vincentvdk | ChitleshGoorah: and what's wrong with that | mei 27 19:19 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: I know that the next fedora-nl website wil run on drupal | mei 27 19:19 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: they are building a new site too | mei 27 19:19 |
ChitleshGoorah | the fedora ambassador is a project in itself, but the website requires additional work that says : start from scratch everytime | mei 27 19:19 |
biertie | benedictus: I would suggest all the official languages in Belgium? | mei 27 19:19 |
biertie | so: English - Dutch - French - German(?) | mei 27 19:20 |
mars_ | german is an extra i think...? | mei 27 19:20 |
benedictus | that's a lot of translation | mei 27 19:20 |
mars_ | yes it is.... | mei 27 19:20 |
vincentvdk | English isn't an official language | mei 27 19:20 |
vincentvdk | in Belgium | mei 27 19:20 |
biertie | yes I know | mei 27 19:20 |
vincentvdk | French and Dutch will do to start with i guess | mei 27 19:21 |
mars_ | what about the forums? | mei 27 19:21 |
ChitleshGoorah | vincentvdk: is it not about wrong or good. is it about efficient solution that will concentrate on fedora itself and not starting from scratch everytime | mei 27 19:21 |
*sereinity heeft verlaten () | mei 27 19:21 | |
biertie | ok, I can live with that :) | mei 27 19:21 |
biertie | mars_: I don't think we need forums? | mei 27 19:21 |
mars_ | oh ok... | mei 27 19:21 |
biertie | I would aim for a simple website | mei 27 19:21 |
biertie | but I'm not sure, we can discuss it | mei 27 19:21 |
vincentvdk | ChitleshGoorah: i understand what you mean, but what's the alternative? | mei 27 19:22 |
mars_ | i just tought there would be forums | mei 27 19:22 |
benedictus | you can point to http://fedoraforum.org/ | mei 27 19:22 |
mars_ | yeah | mei 27 19:22 |
vincentvdk | i would just put some simple static content | mei 27 19:22 |
mars_ | no i'd rather not have a forum... | mei 27 19:22 |
ChitleshGoorah | vincentvdk: be.fedoraproject.org ? and use fedora infrastructure as much as possible. | mei 27 19:22 |
benedictus | but there is little dutch and french | mei 27 19:22 |
vincentvdk | be.fedoraproject.org is fine, but Frederic Hornain was looking into this | mei 27 19:23 |
ChitleshGoorah | as far as I recall when I'm in germany the fedoraproject.org is automatically translated into german | mei 27 19:23 |
benedictus | http://www.projetofedora.org/ is a large country-based fedora site | mei 27 19:23 |
benedictus | we can learn from it? | mei 27 19:24 |
ChitleshGoorah | fedora infrastructure is everything that you need from artist, translators and website admins | mei 27 19:24 |
mars_ | lol | mei 27 19:24 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: *language-based | mei 27 19:24 |
mars_ | now it thinks i'm in brasil | mei 27 19:24 |
mars_ | É com enorme prazer que o Projeto Fedora Brasil anuncia que já está disponível para download a 5ª edição da Revista Fedora Brasil. | mei 27 19:24 |
vincentvdk | what about Belgian meeting reports etc.. | mei 27 19:24 |
ChitleshGoorah | biertie: I think the fedoraproject can handle the language based | mei 27 19:24 |
*Matias_Arg (n=root@host57.190-136-240.telecom.net.ar) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:24 | |
biertie | drupal can too, that isn't really an issue :) | mei 27 19:25 |
mars_ | what about the hosting? | mei 27 19:25 |
biertie | but my point is: I am new to Linux, and I heard about fedora | mei 27 19:26 |
biertie | mars_: I can provide hosting + domain name | mei 27 19:26 |
vincentvdk | to me the fedoraproject website is one big pile of info | mei 27 19:26 |
vincentvdk | i have already an account on my hosting server | mei 27 19:26 |
biertie | I don't care about 15euro's / year, and I need to buy the hosting ether way :) | mei 27 19:26 |
vincentvdk | just waiting for the domain | mei 27 19:26 |
biertie | but ok, I am a newbie | mei 27 19:26 |
mars_ | i'm going to get a hosting too | mei 27 19:26 |
mars_ | from one.com | mei 27 19:26 |
mars_ | one of these days | mei 27 19:27 |
biertie | I think I would get scared about fedoraproject.org | mei 27 19:27 |
mars_ | what do you mean? | mei 27 19:27 |
biertie | just too much information toghetter | mei 27 19:27 |
biertie | I think we need a basis website, with the possibilty to contact persons | mei 27 19:27 |
biertie | in stead of searching trough tons of information? | mei 27 19:27 |
mars_ | yes | mei 27 19:27 |
ChitleshGoorah | that is why I recommend http://be.fedoraproject.org so that you can have your own main page with less pain and long term maintainance | mei 27 19:28 |
mars_ | easy to find articles.... about fedora and usage n stuff | mei 27 19:28 |
mars_ | hmm.... | mei 27 19:28 |
mars_ | i'd like that too | mei 27 19:28 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: I'm not sure, but if you use be.fedoraproject.org, don't you need to use the mediawiki then? | mei 27 19:29 |
mars_ | oh | mei 27 19:29 |
mars_ | isn't it just a domain name? | mei 27 19:29 |
vincentvdk | one.com ?? | mei 27 19:29 |
mars_ | its a host | mei 27 19:29 |
ChitleshGoorah | biertie: you will need to ask fedora-website what solutions they can provide | mei 27 19:29 |
vincentvdk | i know them | mei 27 19:29 |
vincentvdk | i'm a hoster myself | mei 27 19:29 |
mars_ | oh | mei 27 19:29 |
mars_ | nice | mei 27 19:30 |
mars_ | :p | mei 27 19:30 |
vincentvdk | hosting is no issue, but ChitleshGoorah talks about using the fedoraproject infra | mei 27 19:30 |
ChitleshGoorah | I have seen several kubuntu german website born, die reborn die die. I don't want any fedora local website suffer from this | mei 27 19:30 |
benedictus | time to move to next point ? | mei 27 19:30 |
biertie | hehe, my host is openminds.be/ | mei 27 19:30 |
biertie | so ok :) | mei 27 19:30 |
mars_ | ok | mei 27 19:31 |
vincentvdk | it doesn't matter to me where the website resides | mei 27 19:31 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: that could happen to a be.fedoraproject.org too, I think? :) | mei 27 19:31 |
mars_ | if be.fedor... is going to use the same wiki as the mother-site then we'd rather have a differant domain | mei 27 19:31 |
biertie | I want to pay for the domain :) | mei 27 19:31 |
mars_ | I like ur frog :p | mei 27 19:31 |
vincentvdk | frog? | mei 27 19:32 |
biertie | so that isn't a problem :) | mei 27 19:32 |
mars_ | on openminds.be | mei 27 19:32 |
mars_ | :p | mei 27 19:32 |
vincentvdk | :) | mei 27 19:32 |
vincentvdk | it's not my frog | mei 27 19:32 |
ChitleshGoorah | the thing is this website problem every other local team will encounter in the future | mei 27 19:32 |
vincentvdk | but back on topic | mei 27 19:32 |
biertie | so what will we be doing then? | mei 27 19:32 |
ChitleshGoorah | so the best solution is the one that can be taken as example | mei 27 19:32 |
vincentvdk | i actually can't believe that an open source project wants to pull everything to one place | mei 27 19:33 |
ChitleshGoorah | think for fedora-20 timeframe :) | mei 27 19:33 |
vincentvdk | lol | mei 27 19:33 |
ChitleshGoorah | vincentvdk: centralized platform is what fedora is doing since the beginning | mei 27 19:33 |
vincentvdk | ChitleshGoorah: OK, how can we use a belgian "subsite" on fedoraproject? | mei 27 19:34 |
biertie | I think I should check that at #fedora-websites.. | mei 27 19:34 |
ChitleshGoorah | fedora-website is reponsible for everything concerning websites and fedora hosting | mei 27 19:35 |
ChitleshGoorah | anything goes wrong, blame them :) | mei 27 19:35 |
vincentvdk | :) | mei 27 19:35 |
biertie | ok, I'll ask them, ant we decide on what we will be doing the next meeting? | mei 27 19:35 |
vincentvdk | fine for me | mei 27 19:36 |
vincentvdk | but i've got a feeling we're not getting anywhere | mei 27 19:36 |
biertie | vincentvdk: well yeah, I have the same feeling | mei 27 19:36 |
ChitleshGoorah | it is true, but at the same time is it a problem every fedora local team will encounter | mei 27 19:36 |
biertie | but now I want to be sure what is possible with be.fedoraproject :) | mei 27 19:36 |
vincentvdk | i see a lot of people here that like the idea, and want to put some effort in it | mei 27 19:36 |
vincentvdk | but at the same time we can't continue | mei 27 19:37 |
vincentvdk | very strange | mei 27 19:37 |
mars_ | so lets move on to the next subject and we'll talk about this next time when we know more? | mei 27 19:37 |
vincentvdk | ok | mei 27 19:37 |
vincentvdk | what's the next issue | mei 27 19:37 |
biertie | well, I hava drupal site now I you want to know: http://dev.devnox.be/fedora-be/draft/ | mei 27 19:37 |
ChitleshGoorah | move to te next topic, we can live without the website for some days right ? | mei 27 19:37 |
biertie | you can play a bit arround there, if you register with a fedoraproject.org e-mail, I'll make you admin :) | mei 27 19:38 |
mars_ | we can try | mei 27 19:38 |
biertie | ok, next point then: a fedora-be real life meeting | mei 27 19:38 |
ChitleshGoorah | wait one problem | mei 27 19:38 |
vincentvdk | ChitleshGoorah: speak | mei 27 19:39 |
ChitleshGoorah | the only reason I would move outside fedoraproject domain is when the contents will refer to forbidden items mentioned on the wiki. | mei 27 19:39 |
mars_ | is th | mei 27 19:39 |
mars_ | oops | mei 27 19:39 |
ChitleshGoorah | so the contents do matter. | mei 27 19:39 |
mars_ | what do you mean forbidden items? | mei 27 19:40 |
*lfoppiano (n=lfoppian@fedora/lfoppiano) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:40 | |
benedictus | other distro's? | mei 27 19:40 |
biertie | so a basic tutorial about how to set up rpm-fusion or something can not be done on fedoraproject.org? | mei 27 19:40 |
ChitleshGoorah | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems | mei 27 19:40 |
ChitleshGoorah | no not yet | mei 27 19:40 |
mars_ | thats a big list :p | mei 27 19:41 |
ChitleshGoorah | this is among the reaons why fedora france has their own website | mei 27 19:41 |
biertie | well, I would choose for an own site then... | mei 27 19:41 |
mars_ | yes | mei 27 19:41 |
mars_ | me too | mei 27 19:41 |
benedictus | yes, own site | mei 27 19:41 |
mars_ | we're not alloud to talk about nvidia gfx cards either | mei 27 19:42 |
vincentvdk | fine for me, but i think you wan't get support from fedora | mei 27 19:42 |
*fhornain (n=fhornain@fwcirb.irisnet.be) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:42 | |
benedictus | but i don't like the multilanguage-character of it | mei 27 19:42 |
vincentvdk | fhornain: hi Frederic | mei 27 19:42 |
fhornain | Hello | mei 27 19:42 |
biertie | hello fhornain :) | mei 27 19:42 |
benedictus | http://www.fedora-fr.org/ is already a good french site | mei 27 19:42 |
fhornain | Sorry again for the delay. | mei 27 19:42 |
mars_ | i'd rather have it in dutch too but we have to face it... that people talk french | mei 27 19:42 |
benedictus | so why make a new french site | mei 27 19:42 |
*couf (n=bart@fedora/couf) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:42 | |
mars_ | as for fedora-fr | mei 27 19:42 |
*che (n=che@redhat/che) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:43 | |
mars_ | fedora-nl is a good one too | mei 27 19:43 |
biertie | but I won't find your name on fedora-nl | mei 27 19:43 |
ChitleshGoorah | hence belgian is divided hahaha | mei 27 19:43 |
biertie | I idea is to bring fedora-be really to the people | mei 27 19:43 |
*Sparks_Meeting is nu bekend als Sparks | mei 27 19:43 | |
*couf excuses for being way too late | mei 27 19:43 | |
moixs | I'm jumping in, but fedora-fr is already the central hub for FR, BE, CH and Canada for every french speaking guy | mei 27 19:43 |
benedictus | I think focussing on language-groups creates better information | mei 27 19:43 |
moixs | there is no real point in creating yet another site | mei 27 19:43 |
vincentvdk | hi couf | mei 27 19:43 |
biertie | hi couf | mei 27 19:44 |
mars_ | hi couf | mei 27 19:44 |
mars_ | hmm.... | mei 27 19:44 |
mars_ | so if we drop french there is no use | mei 27 19:44 |
ChitleshGoorah | moixs: in the case of belgium it complicates due to the language similarities with neighbours | mei 27 19:44 |
mars_ | ? | mei 27 19:44 |
moixs | I'm Swiss, we have the same problem than you with FR, DE and IT spoken in the country | mei 27 19:44 |
benedictus | so I support a small multi-language site that points to the most basic information and point to the larger language-based sites | mei 27 19:45 |
moixs | Result: there are fedora webites corresponding to languages, not countries | mei 27 19:45 |
vincentvdk | benedictus: i agree with you | mei 27 19:45 |
moixs | Sounds more reasonable | mei 27 19:45 |
vincentvdk | ubuntu-be has the same problem | mei 27 19:45 |
vincentvdk | nl -> Netherlands | mei 27 19:45 |
vincentvdk | fr -> France | mei 27 19:45 |
*Matias_Arg heeft verlaten ("Leaving.") | mei 27 19:46 | |
biertie | vincentvdk: yes, I know, but I think ubuntu-be is a good example about how the fedora-be site should look like? | mei 27 19:46 |
vincentvdk | but if you write something about a belgian happening/meeting | mei 27 19:46 |
vincentvdk | where to put it? | mei 27 19:46 |
mars_ | you have a point there | mei 27 19:46 |
fhornain | +1 with vincent | mei 27 19:46 |
mars_ | i think... | mei 27 19:46 |
mars_ | we need the belgian site | mei 27 19:46 |
ChitleshGoorah | vincentvdk: hence be.fedoraproject.org is the solution | mei 27 19:46 |
moixs | In each case, it has to go on the fedoraproject events page :p | mei 27 19:47 |
mars_ | if we want to intoduce people in belgium to fedora | mei 27 19:47 |
ChitleshGoorah | point to local community websites | mei 27 19:47 |
mars_ | news articles and stuff about belgium | mei 27 19:47 |
vincentvdk | can we all agree on be.fedoraproject.org | mei 27 19:47 |
ChitleshGoorah | such fedora-nl or fedora-fr | mei 27 19:47 |
*openpercept heeft verlaten (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | mei 27 19:47 | |
*mcepl (n=mcepl@nezmar.jabbim.cz) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:47 | |
mars_ | the domain doesn't realy matter to me | mei 27 19:48 |
mars_ | but the content does | mei 27 19:48 |
mars_ | i didn't like that little black-list they had | mei 27 19:48 |
biertie | but posting news and such is difficult on a wiki -I think- | mei 27 19:48 |
fhornain | Just need to let Belgian local people know that Fedora is there ! | mei 27 19:48 |
vincentvdk | fhornain: +1 | mei 27 19:48 |
fhornain | Don't reinvent the wheel! | mei 27 19:48 |
ChitleshGoorah | mars_: they had ? who is "they"? | mei 27 19:48 |
mars_ | lol | mei 27 19:48 |
mars_ | they have :p | mei 27 19:49 |
mars_ | fedoraproject :p | mei 27 19:49 |
ChitleshGoorah | mars_: we are fedoraproject | mei 27 19:49 |
mars_ | yes i know... | mei 27 19:49 |
mars_ | i didn't mean it like that | mei 27 19:49 |
mars_ | :p | mei 27 19:49 |
mars_ mbacovsk mbonnet mcepl mether mishti mizmo mmcgrath moixs mxcarron | mei 27 19:49 | |
biertie | I understand you mars_ ;) | mei 27 19:49 |
mars_ | i just dont like the blacklist of subjects | mei 27 19:49 |
vincentvdk | man, at the moment we look like the government :) | mei 27 19:49 |
mars_ | nice :d:d | mei 27 19:49 |
*josedamiangarrid heeft verlaten ("Leaving.") | mei 27 19:49 | |
*openpercept (n=openperc@fedora/openpercept) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 19:49 | |
biertie | well yeah, I don't like that blacklist too, it's so easy to make a mistake then.. | mei 27 19:50 |
vincentvdk | so everyone agrees that we want to put content on it specific for Belgium? | mei 27 19:50 |
mars_ | yes | mei 27 19:50 |
biertie | vincentvdk: yes | mei 27 19:50 |
benedictus | yes | mei 27 19:50 |
fhornain | +1 | mei 27 19:50 |
vincentvdk | ok, next thing | mei 27 19:51 |
ChitleshGoorah | the forbidden items can go the fedora-fr or fedora-nl so it does not affect fedora commitments | mei 27 19:51 |
vincentvdk | ok | mei 27 19:51 |
vincentvdk | so, what are we allowed to do from fedora | mei 27 19:51 |
vincentvdk | can we register an own domain? | mei 27 19:51 |
moixs | yes | mei 27 19:51 |
benedictus | P2 ==> where and when can we meet in real life? | mei 27 19:51 |
fhornain | Nope !!! | mei 27 19:51 |
mars_ | why nope? | mei 27 19:52 |
fhornain | Do you have fill the document vincent ? | mei 27 19:52 |
*ChitleshGoorah notifies Champions League final is about 40 mins :) | mei 27 19:52 | |
vincentvdk | about the domain : postponed to next meeting ? | mei 27 19:52 |
fhornain | Cause we have to request the Fedora domain to Fedora Board. | mei 27 19:52 |
moixs | ChitleshGoorah: I think everyone is waiting on it :p | mei 27 19:52 |
ChitleshGoorah | fhornain: +1, due to fedora trademarks | mei 27 19:53 |
fhornain | Vincent has to fill the question sdocument | mei 27 19:53 |
vincentvdk | fhornain: i'm working on it | mei 27 19:53 |
vincentvdk | but the last weeks i've been living between servers :) | mei 27 19:53 |
biertie | hehe :) | mei 27 19:54 |
fhornain | I was busy too | mei 27 19:54 |
vincentvdk | but i have some topics | mei 27 19:54 |
fhornain | Maybe you can delegate it. | mei 27 19:54 |
vincentvdk | and today i've seen some more things | mei 27 19:54 |
vincentvdk | maybe a wiki somewhere | mei 27 19:54 |
vincentvdk | that everyone can edit? | mei 27 19:54 |
fhornain | BTW, last meeting we talked about a summer event for Belgian Fedora Guys. | mei 27 19:55 |
vincentvdk | what about Real Live Meet | mei 27 19:55 |
fhornain | Are you interested ? | mei 27 19:55 |
vincentvdk | fine for me | mei 27 19:55 |
biertie | what do you mean with a summer event? | mei 27 19:55 |
fhornain | No have time, but I will do the invitation asap. | mei 27 19:55 |
benedictus | atm, I don't think a real-life meeting is nescesarry | mei 27 19:55 |
vincentvdk | i think something for the Belgian ambassadors | mei 27 19:56 |
fhornain | Conviviality ??? | mei 27 19:56 |
ChitleshGoorah | I can't promise it depends where i will be in the future | mei 27 19:56 |
biertie | benedictus: no, not nescesarry, but it would be cool to get to know each other in real life? :) | mei 27 19:56 |
vincentvdk | biertie: +1 | mei 27 19:56 |
benedictus | yes | mei 27 19:56 |
mars_ | yes | mei 27 19:56 |
mars_ | but i dont know if i could make it ... | mei 27 19:56 |
mars_ | i'm having a hard time making it to these online meetings | mei 27 19:56 |
fhornain | Ok send me place proposals ... | mei 27 19:56 |
fhornain | Bxl ??? | mei 27 19:57 |
vincentvdk | what is the most central point | mei 27 19:57 |
mars_ | leuven? | mei 27 19:57 |
vincentvdk | for all of us | mei 27 19:57 |
benedictus | Antwerp | mei 27 19:57 |
biertie | Ghent / Antwper / Brussel / Leuven / brugge | mei 27 19:57 |
biertie | *Antwerp | mei 27 19:57 |
mars_ | where is everybody from? | mei 27 19:57 |
mars_ | i'm from bilzen | mei 27 19:57 |
vincentvdk | lol | mei 27 19:57 |
benedictus | Antwerp | mei 27 19:57 |
biertie | I'm from Ghent | mei 27 19:57 |
vincentvdk | somewhere around Bxl is fine | mei 27 19:57 |
*moixs is from Brugge, originally :p | mei 27 19:57 | |
biertie | couf: is also from around Ghent | mei 27 19:57 |
vincentvdk | i could pick up someone | mei 27 19:57 |
ChitleshGoorah | benedictus: you are in Antwerp ? | mei 27 19:57 |
benedictus | Schoten | mei 27 19:57 |
benedictus | is near Antwerp | mei 27 19:58 |
ChitleshGoorah | I'm in Antwerp | mei 27 19:58 |
vincentvdk | maybe somewhere between Bxl and A'pen | mei 27 19:58 |
fhornain | Brugge is the middle point, isn't it ? | mei 27 19:58 |
benedictus | haha | mei 27 19:58 |
mars_ | lol | mei 27 19:58 |
biertie | so 2x Antwerp, 2xGhent, and 2xBxl (or Leuven) | mei 27 19:58 |
vincentvdk | no, Buggenhout is | mei 27 19:58 |
biertie | vincentvdk: haha :D | mei 27 19:59 |
vincentvdk | that's where i live | mei 27 19:59 |
vincentvdk | :) | mei 27 19:59 |
vincentvdk | Mechelen? | mei 27 19:59 |
vincentvdk | it has a train station | mei 27 19:59 |
mars_ | what about me :p bilzen:p | mei 27 19:59 |
mars_ | hasselt | mei 27 19:59 |
vincentvdk | for people who use public transport | mei 27 19:59 |
vincentvdk | ow, Limburg :) | mei 27 19:59 |
benedictus | I use train | mei 27 19:59 |
biertie | mars_: ach lol, I thought you were from Leuven ^^ | mei 27 19:59 |
biertie | benedictus: me too :) | mei 27 20:00 |
ChitleshGoorah | train +1 :) | mei 27 20:00 |
mars_ | no but i think next year from september | mei 27 20:00 |
biertie | so the central meeting point should be somewere around a station | mei 27 20:00 |
mars_ | train +1 | mei 27 20:00 |
vincentvdk | biertie: so it seems | mei 27 20:00 |
*kital (n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-meeting | mei 27 20:00 | |
ChitleshGoorah | Mechelen or still brussels is the perfect hub I think | mei 27 20:00 |
vincentvdk | where in Bxl? | mei 27 20:01 |
vincentvdk | to many people there | mei 27 20:01 |
biertie | that doesn't really matter -yet- | mei 27 20:01 |
vincentvdk | but it's fine by mee | mei 27 20:01 |
vincentvdk | me* | mei 27 20:01 |
fhornain | Gare Centrale ? | mei 27 20:02 |
biertie | I like Ghent more, but I central for the flemish area, but the people from wallonie... | mei 27 20:02 |
vincentvdk | Ghent is also fine | mei 27 20:02 |
biertie | *But I -> it is | mei 27 20:02 |
vincentvdk | to me it doesn't matter | mei 27 20:02 |
*EvilBob heeft het onderwerp gewijzigd naar: Fedora-BE Meeting - Subject: Face to Face Meeting? | mei 27 20:02 | |
fhornain | Ok for Ghent | mei 27 20:02 |
*biertie has to sleep more, he can't even speak decent english anymore -_- | mei 27 20:02 | |
vincentvdk | Ghent Ok | mei 27 20:02 |
benedictus | Gent ok | mei 27 20:02 |
biertie | Ghent OK | mei 27 20:03 |
mars_ | too far for me :( | mei 27 20:03 |
vincentvdk | mars where do you live? | mei 27 20:03 |
mars_ mbacovsk mbonnet mcepl mether mishti mizmo mmcgrath moixs mxcarron | mei 27 20:03 | |
mars_ | near hasselt | mei 27 20:03 |
ChitleshGoorah | on mars lol | mei 27 20:03 |
mars_ | haha | mei 27 20:03 |
vincentvdk | mmm | mei 27 20:03 |
biertie | mars_: I'll pay you a beer if you come ;-) | mei 27 20:03 |
mars_ | i think | mei 27 20:03 |
mars_ | :o | mei 27 20:03 |
vincentvdk | i'll pay one to | mei 27 20:03 |
Bouska | too far for me too | mei 27 20:03 |
vincentvdk | so you have 2 good reasons to come over | mei 27 20:03 |
mars_ | if everyone pays me a beer | mei 27 20:03 |
mars_ | i wont be able to go home | mei 27 20:04 |
biertie | haha :D | mei 27 20:04 |
fhornain | Where do you live Bouska ? | mei 27 20:04 |
mars_ | i wanted to say: its better if you guys just choose the spot without taking me in consideration... because the change that i'll be able to come is very small... | mei 27 20:05 |
Bouska | fhornain: Brussels (and more precisely Uccle) | mei 27 20:05 |
vincentvdk | Ghent then | mei 27 20:05 |
fhornain | Bouska: Me too | mei 27 20:05 |
biertie | Bouska: Ghent is only half an hour away with the train, so... :) | mei 27 20:05 |
fhornain | We can go to ghent together. | mei 27 20:05 |
mars_ mbacovsk mbonnet mcepl mether mishti mizmo mmcgrath moixs mxcarron | mei 27 20:06 | |
vincentvdk | can we agree on location? | mei 27 20:06 |
fhornain | +1 | mei 27 20:06 |
biertie | yes | mei 27 20:06 |
Bouska | biertie: well, I don't take the belgian train very often | mei 27 20:06 |
benedictus | yes | mei 27 20:06 |
mars_ | i like the new ones (h) | mei 27 20:07 |
biertie | lolz :) | mei 27 20:07 |
vincentvdk | so Ghent it is? | mei 27 20:07 |
fhornain | When ? | mei 27 20:07 |
fhornain | June or July ? | mei 27 20:07 |
vincentvdk | maybe we've to create a doodle | mei 27 20:07 |
vincentvdk | July for me | mei 27 20:08 |
biertie | vincentvdk: +1 | mei 27 20:08 |
benedictus | date is not a big isue for me (mostly) | mei 27 20:08 |
fhornain | For my part, I do not care. So Ok for july | mei 27 20:08 |
*EvilBob heeft het onderwerp gewijzigd naar: Fedora-BE Meeting - Subject: Face to Face Meeting - Location Vote, Ghent - Date Suggestion, July | mei 27 20:08 | |
ChitleshGoorah | biertie: Damien Durand is no longer with us now. | mei 27 20:09 |
ChitleshGoorah | I mean he is still alive. but not left fedora and opensource community | mei 27 20:09 |
*tatica is nu bekend als tatica-out | mei 27 20:09 | |
vincentvdk | Ok for July | mei 27 20:09 |
ChitleshGoorah | I will be in Switzerland in July | mei 27 20:10 |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: I just e-mailed everybody I could find with the tag: ambassador-belgium | mei 27 20:10 |
vincentvdk | August? | mei 27 20:10 |
Bouska | if it's in july, i could come I think | mei 27 20:10 |
biertie | from now on I'll only mail to the mailing list, so :) | mei 27 20:10 |
ChitleshGoorah | biertie: I will ask to kital to clean him up | mei 27 20:10 |
*tk009 heeft verlaten (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | mei 27 20:10 | |
biertie | ChitleshGoorah: ok | mei 27 20:10 |
kital | got it - we clean up the inactive ones soon | mei 27 20:11 |
EvilBob | ChitleshGoorah: To clarify you will be unavailable the entire month of July? | mei 27 20:11 |
ChitleshGoorah | EvilBob: I will be available with online means such as emails, package updates etc.. | mei 27 20:12 |
vincentvdk | i'll write a little report about this meeting | mei 27 20:12 |
mars_ | congé | mei 27 20:12 |
EvilBob | ChitleshGoorah: So unavailable for a meet | mei 27 20:12 |
ChitleshGoorah | yes | mei 27 20:12 |
fhornain | For my part, it will be nice if this summer meeting will be plan on Mon, Thu, Wed, Tue evening. | mei 27 20:13 |
*EvilBob heeft het onderwerp gewijzigd naar: Fedora-BE Meeting - Subject: Face to Face Meeting - Location Vote, Ghent - Date Suggestion, Needs Discussion | mei 27 20:13 | |
*RodrigoPadula heeft verlaten ("Saindo") | mei 27 20:13 | |
vincentvdk | i'll make a doodle | mei 27 20:13 |
biertie | vincentvdk: ok :) | mei 27 20:13 |
fhornain | First week of July ? | mei 27 20:13 |
*linuxguru heeft verlaten (Connection timed out) | mei 27 20:14 | |
vincentvdk | first week is ok i guess | mei 27 20:14 |
biertie | I'm not sure yet, I have to check with my vacation job | mei 27 20:14 |
vincentvdk | in the evening | mei 27 20:14 |
biertie | I won't say how much I work ^^ | mei 27 20:14 |
mars_ | :p | mei 27 20:14 |
fhornain | Oops, I have to leave... Could you post the discussion on the Fedora Ambassadors mailling list ? | mei 27 20:14 |
vincentvdk | ok | mei 27 20:15 |
fhornain | Thx | mei 27 20:15 |
*EvilBob heeft het onderwerp gewijzigd naar: Fedora-BE Meeting - Subject: Face to Face Meeting - Location Vote, Ghent - Date Suggestion, Needs Discussion and time to check schedules | mei 27 20:15 | |
fhornain | Bye, bye * | mei 27 20:15 |
biertie | fhornain: I'll post it to the fedora-be mailing list :) | mei 27 20:15 |
biertie | fhornain: bye | mei 27 20:15 |
fhornain | Thx | mei 27 20:15 |
mars_ | bye;) | mei 27 20:15 |
fhornain | See you soon. | mei 27 20:15 |
vincentvdk | i've to leave to | mei 27 20:15 |
mars_ | oh | mei 27 20:15 |
mars_ | bye 2 u too | mei 27 20:16 |
mars_ | bye 2 u too | mei 27 20:16 |
vincentvdk | biertie: you post it then? | mei 27 20:16 |
biertie | hmm ok | mei 27 20:16 |
biertie | yes, ok | mei 27 20:16 |
biertie | I'm logging the meeting so ok :) | mei 27 20:16 |
vincentvdk | ok, bye everyone ! | mei 27 20:16 |
*fhornain heeft verlaten ("Leaving") | mei 27 20:16 | |
EvilBob | Going to try for other topics in your agenda? | mei 27 20:16 |
mars_ | yes | mei 27 20:16 |
mars_ | :d | mei 27 20:16 |
biertie | well, with the fedora 11 release comming up, I just want to know, are there events planned? | mei 27 20:17 |
biertie | I can't give an event now, because of *exams* | mei 27 20:17 |
mars_ | it would be nice to have something for the release | mei 27 20:17 |
*EvilBob heeft het onderwerp gewijzigd naar: Fedora-BE Meeting - Subject: F11 Release Events? | mei 27 20:17 | |
mars_ | damn yeah me too | mei 27 20:17 |
mars_ | exams | mei 27 20:17 |
biertie | benedictus: ? | mei 27 20:18 |
benedictus | I think organizing an event is more for fedora12-release ;o) then we have time to think about it | mei 27 20:18 |
mars_ | ok ... | mei 27 20:18 |
biertie | check! | mei 27 20:18 |
biertie | and no exams ;-) | mei 27 20:18 |
mars_ | maybe then we can all work on it | mei 27 20:18 |
*moixs heeft verlaten (Remote closed the connection) | mei 27 20:18 | |
biertie | mars_: +1 | mei 27 20:18 |
biertie | but ok, that's for later then.. | mei 27 20:19 |
biertie | I guess there won't be an event in belgium then, for F11? | mei 27 20:19 |
benedictus | not with me in it | mei 27 20:19 |
biertie | it's a shame, but ok :) | mei 27 20:19 |
biertie | we'll do better with F12 ;-) | mei 27 20:19 |
mars_ | cant wait lol | mei 27 20:20 |
benedictus | F12 rocks ;-) | mei 27 20:20 |
biertie | hehe :) | mei 27 20:20 |
*SgtDitt (n=SgtDitt@ip68-224-89-6.lv.lv.cox.net) is binnengekomen bij #fedora-Meeting | mei 27 20:20 | |
mars_ | ok | mei 27 20:20 |
mars_ | whats next? :d | mei 27 20:20 |
biertie | next topic: are there still people here that go to linux-tag? | mei 27 20:20 |
*EvilBob heeft het onderwerp gewijzigd naar: Fedora-BE Meeting - Subject: LinuxTag, June 24-27, 2009 | mei 27 20:20 | |
benedictus | I am not | mei 27 20:20 |
mars_ | linux tag? :s | mei 27 20:20 |
biertie | belgan people then ^^ | mei 27 20:20 |
biertie | mars_: ! | mei 27 20:21 |
biertie | linux tag + fudcon! | mei 27 20:21 |
mars_ | :( | mei 27 20:21 |
EvilBob | http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/be.html | mei 27 20:21 |
mars_ | thnx | mei 27 20:21 |
mars_ | ooh sounds nice... | mei 27 20:21 |
mars_ | but again... cant go... :p | mei 27 20:22 |
biertie | so, if you want to come, it's just after my exams, we can travel toghetter? :) | mei 27 20:22 |
biertie | ach, ok | mei 27 20:22 |
mars_ | maybe next year | mei 27 20:22 |
*biertie has the feeling he will be the only belgian fedora ambassador there | mei 27 20:22 | |
mars_ | when i'm in leuven :D | mei 27 20:22 |
benedictus | yes, maybe next year | mei 27 20:22 |
biertie | hooray for leuven ^^ | mei 27 20:22 |
mars_ | yeah | mei 27 20:22 |
mars_ | hooray | mei 27 20:22 |
biertie | so you are still in college <what is the correct english term?> | mei 27 20:23 |
mars_ | college i guess | mei 27 20:23 |
mars_ | my last year.... | mei 27 20:23 |
biertie | cool :) | mei 27 20:23 |
mars_ | hopefully | mei 27 20:23 |
biertie | hehe | mei 27 20:23 |
biertie | never worrie ^^ | mei 27 20:24 |
EvilBob | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009 <-- Fedora Info | mei 27 20:24 |
mars_ | it sucks that they never try to teach the students linux :( | mei 27 20:24 |
mars_ | they have a vista course | mei 27 20:24 |
biertie | what do you study at school then? | mei 27 20:24 |
mars_ | made us buy a book | mei 27 20:24 |
mars_ | informaticabeheer | mei 27 20:24 |
mars_ | informatics? | mei 27 20:24 |
biertie | ach lol yeah... ^^ | mei 27 20:24 |
biertie | but it's difficult for me too, to convince my teachers to try linux | mei 27 20:25 |
EvilBob | there was a 5th agenda Item | mei 27 20:25 |
biertie | are there any other varia points? | mei 27 20:25 |
mars_ | yes sam here | mei 27 20:25 |
mars_ | i tried but nope | mei 27 20:25 |
biertie | I guess not | mei 27 20:25 |
biertie | so I want to close this meeting | mei 27 20:26 |
biertie | I want to thank all people that have joined this meeting :) | mei 27 20:26 |
mars_ | yeah that'll be a good | mei 27 20:26 |
*EvilBob heeft het onderwerp gewijzigd naar: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel for meeting schedule | mei 27 20:26 | |
mars_ | i gotto make a fast call | mei 27 20:26 |
biertie | and EvilBob for edititing the title | mei 27 20:26 |
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