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Meeting started by ksinny at 05:00:56 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-04-03/fedora_atomic_... .
Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (ksinny, 05:01:12)
* Introduction (ksinny, 05:07:47)
* Questions (ksinny, 05:21:41) * ACTION: ksinny get answer for "Is there any plan to have a default flatpak repo eventually ? e.g. flathub, maybe on provided by fedora, etc" (ksinny, 05:36:59) * ACTION: ksinny get answer for is there any plans to have rpm-ostree handle package groups like DNF does? (ksinny, 05:37:50) * ACTION: ksinny get answer to "is there a plan to have a local RPM repo where I can put custom or downloaded rpms for installation with rpm-ostree ?" (ksinny, 05:47:41) * Atomic ML - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Atomic_WG#Mailing_List (ksinny, 05:51:44) * IRC channel - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Atomic_WG#IRC (ksinny, 05:51:59)
* coordinate Project Atomic-related talks for devconf.in (ksinny, 05:52:43) * LINK: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/447 (ksinny, 05:52:51)
* Open Floor (ksinny, 05:57:37)
Meeting ended at 06:01:32 UTC.
Action Items ------------ * ksinny get answer for "Is there any plan to have a default flatpak repo eventually ? e.g. flathub, maybe on provided by fedora, etc" * ksinny get answer for is there any plans to have rpm-ostree handle package groups like DNF does? * ksinny get answer to "is there a plan to have a local RPM repo where I can put custom or downloaded rpms for installation with rpm-ostree ?"
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People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * ksinny (70) * firstyear (68) * AdrianCeleste (41) * snarwade (16) * zodbot (11) * sayan (8)
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Thanks Sinny for running this!! I have some responses to the questions below (and some suggestions) inline:
On 04/03/2018 02:10 AM, Sinny Kumari wrote:
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_atomic_community
Might be good if we named this similar to our other meeting, but with APAC in the title: #startmeeting fedora_atomic_wg_apac. And then the Subject of this mail could be "Fedora Atomic WG APAC Meeting Minutes".
Action Items
- ksinny get answer for "Is there any plan to have a default flatpak repo eventually ? e.g. flathub, maybe on provided by fedora, etc"
I think there is a plan to have a fedora flatpak repo (built from Fedora RPMs) at some point in the future. For now flathub is the way to go.
- ksinny get answer for is there any plans to have rpm-ostree handle package groups like DNF does?
See https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/issues/744 and then https://github.com/rpm-software-management/libdnf/pull/135#issuecomment-3378....
TL;DR rpm-ostree will support it when libdnf does.
- ksinny get answer to "is there a plan to have a local RPM repo where I can put custom or downloaded rpms for installation with rpm-ostree ?"
I'm not sure what exactly the question is. This operation is very much similar to how you would do this on a non-Atomic system today.
- - download rpms to local directory - - run createrepo - - serve that directory over http(s) - - add yum repo file into /etc/yum.repos.d/
Now you can rpm-ostree install 'pkg' and it will look at all enabled repos.
People Present (lines said)
- ksinny (70)
- firstyear (68)
- AdrianCeleste (41)
- snarwade (16)
- zodbot (11)
- sayan (8)
Thanks everyone who came!
Dusty
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:42 PM, Dusty Mabe dusty@dustymabe.com wrote:
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Thanks Sinny for running this!! I have some responses to the questions below (and some suggestions) inline:
No worries and thanks a lot for answering questions!
On 04/03/2018 02:10 AM, Sinny Kumari wrote:
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_atomic_community
Might be good if we named this similar to our other meeting, but with APAC in the title: #startmeeting fedora_atomic_wg_apac. And then the Subject of this mail could be "Fedora Atomic WG APAC Meeting Minutes".
Yeah, make sense to me. In this case it will be good to rename meeting name in fedcoal calendar too. @sanja can you please make the cahngest?
Action Items
- ksinny get answer for "Is there any plan to have a default flatpak repo eventually ? e.g. flathub, maybe on provided by fedora, etc"
I think there is a plan to have a fedora flatpak repo (built from Fedora RPMs) at some point in the future. For now flathub is the way to go.
Nice
- ksinny get answer for is there any plans to have rpm-ostree handle package groups like DNF does?
See https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/issues/744 and then https://github.com/rpm-software-management/libdnf/pull/135# issuecomment-337822189.
TL;DR rpm-ostree will support it when libdnf does.
That's good to know. Hopefully libdnf with comps support will arrive soon.
- ksinny get answer to "is there a plan to have a local RPM repo where I can put custom or downloaded rpms for installation with rpm-ostree ?"
I'm not sure what exactly the question is. This operation is very much similar to how you would do this on a non-Atomic system today.
It was more of the question of having per-available Local repo so that user doesn't have to perform following steps you mentioned below :) They can just add their local rpms to the pre-available local repo and perform rpm-ostree install pkg.
- - download rpms to local directory
- run createrepo
- serve that directory over http(s)
- add yum repo file into /etc/yum.repos.d/
Now you can rpm-ostree install 'pkg' and it will look at all enabled repos.
There were two more questions which I parsed later from meeting logs, couldn't action them with my slow typing :)
1. Any plans to make /etc stateless? Let's say I stupidly rm -rf /etc . if /etc were stateless, that wouldn't be an issue because nothing too critical would be kept there 2. I had to add a "custom" rpm to enable firmware for my laptop. Is there any work toward enabling /usr/local/lib/firmware to work? This document explains more. https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/html/2017/12/23/using_b43_firmware_on_fedor... . Currently Fedora only accepts /lib/firmware Which of course is read only on atomic
People Present (lines said)
- ksinny (70)
- firstyear (68)
- AdrianCeleste (41)
- snarwade (16)
- zodbot (11)
- sayan (8)
Thanks everyone who came!
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On 04/04/2018 12:22 PM, Sinny Kumari wrote:
- ksinny get answer to "is there a plan to have a local RPM repo where I can put custom or downloaded rpms for installation with rpm-ostree ?"
I'm not sure what exactly the question is. This operation is very much similar to how you would do this on a non-Atomic system today.
It was more of the question of having per-available Local repo so that user doesn't have to perform following steps you mentioned below :) They can just add their local rpms to the pre-available local repo and perform rpm-ostree install pkg.
This is local package installation from a file? `rpm-ostree install /path/to/file.rpm` should work. Am I missing something?
- download rpms to local directory
- run createrepo
- serve that directory over http(s)
- add yum repo file into /etc/yum.repos.d/
Now you can rpm-ostree install 'pkg' and it will look at all enabled repos.
There were two more questions which I parsed later from meeting logs, couldn't action them with my slow typing :)
- Any plans to make /etc stateless? Let's say I stupidly rm -rf /etc . if /etc were stateless, that wouldn't be an issue because nothing too critical would be kept there
no plans other than some discussion in an upstream issue: https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/issues/702
- I had to add a "custom" rpm to enable firmware for my laptop. Is there any work toward enabling /usr/local/lib/firmware to work?
This document explains more. https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/html/2017/12/23/using_b43_firmware_on_fedor... . Currently Fedora only accepts /lib/firmware Which of course is read only on atomic
I'm not really sure why /usr/local/lib/firmware isn't used by Fedora. Maybe we can have someone from the kernel team comment. Added cc to Laura Abbott to see if she knows why.
Dusty
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