Quoting Gordan Bobic <gordan(a)bobich.net>:
omalleys(a)msu.edu wrote:
> Quoting Gordan Bobic <gordan(a)bobich.net>:
>
>> Speaking of dependencies - there is a package build circular dependency.
>> Not sure if this should be reported as a bug:
>> openssl needs krb5-devel to build
>> krb5 needs openssl-devel to build
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that can't be right since one has to be built first. In
>> this case I could rpm -ivh --nodeps, but I shouldn't really have to do
>> that.
>
> It probably should be reported to the mainline but Im not sure it can be
> fixed either.. :)
But isn't F12 deprecated now? We're so far behind with the ARM port that
by the time it's there, it's already deprecated by a Fedora version 2
versions newer.
The plan is to finish 13, do 14, then 15. As I believe some or most of
the bugs if they are getting pushed upstream should be worked out.?
There may be a branch at f15 at or around the cortex processors.
> You can probably do a rpm -ivh openssl-devel krb5-devel
IIRC, the reason why I couldn't do that was because krb5 was missing
from the F12 ARM repository I had to build it, but IIRC, openssl-devel
wasn't there, either.
It came from somewhere. I am pretty sure I installed it for the
openafs client qemu buildbot system. I don't think I built it.
Looking at the timestamps, I had to rebuild openssl from src.rpm to
get
the openssl-devel, then krb5. Needed krb5 for some KDE deppendencies, in
order to build konversation.
I kind of wonder why openssl needs krb5. OpenSSH i can see needing
krb5 and openssl. And I can see krb5 needing openssl for gssapi...
I'm more than a little surprised that ARM Fedora is so neglected.
The
build is very incomplete. This is particularly odd considering that all
the src.rpm packages seem to build just fine.
I was trying to figure this one out too.
Ubuntu, OTOH, seem to have much better support for ARM. Are there
plans
to catch up?
Ubuntu is further because it is really Debian unstable. (although I
think debian is better..)
> Im not sure exactly how important it is given usually you are
using the
> shared libs anyway.
It's not really an issue, there's always a way around it, but I thought
that there should be no circular dependencies in either the binary or
source packages.
Ideally there shouldn't be. :)
>> Speaking of bugs, do ARM Fedora bugs go into the
bugzilla.redhat.com or
>> into a different bugzilla?
>
> no idea. I was trying to figure that out as well.
> It seems like they need to be reported in both places since they need to
> be fixed eventually by the official package maintainer
Oh, OK. I thought it was the same bugzilla. Doesn't the ARM one feed to
the main one? Why are they even separate?
Have you got a URL handy for the Fedora ARM bugzilla?
I'm not sure there is one, or whether it is part of the bugzilla. The
only things I have really found are local to the arm project. I would
rather send an email then fill out a form. lol
I can seem to use my fedora account to login to the arm koji.
Im getting
https://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/login is handing me back a
(Error code: ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert)
Oh and python twisted is broken at the core level which is needed for
buildbot.
>>> It is probably going to take quite a bit of time to
compile. Given
>>> there isn't a compiled version for arm, it will probably take more
>>> work then just a recompile.
>>
>> Well:
>>
>> 1st attempt:
>> OOM-ed with only 512MB of RAM (I wanted to avoid swapping onto SD, it's
>> painful enough without the extra disk I/O it causes).
>
> fwiw, when i did kernel build time testing with the guruplug. I tried
> nfs, and a usb/esata drive plugged into either port. nfs with the nosync
> option was the fastest (50 minutes) and both esata and usb2 were roughly
> the same time at 60 minutes.
Yeah, I can believe that. NFS over GbE with async is pretty quick. Build
performance on the Toshiba AC100 is quite good when I LD_PRELOAD
libeatmydata.so (eats all the fsyncs - I know, I know, at my peril),
even onto a slow SD card or USB stick. I figured that 2x Cortex A9 @
1GHz would build it quicker than 1x Feroceon @ 1.2GHz.
My guess is the 2x cortex will sometimes be quicker then the Feroceon.
:) I would actually like to performance test them. :)
Then again, with it taking so long, distcc is rapidly becoming
tempting.
Since I'm very much meaning to get a lot more involved in this, I'm
pondering cramming a pile of Panda Boards into a 3U chassis I have lying
around.
I wish I had bunch of panda boards lying around, I would probably put
then in a chassis with a switch but I would need fundage lol. I wish
the panda board had usb3 or esata and dual nic gigE's. I would have
bought one of those for sure.
>> 2nd attempt:
>> Failed because the build process used up all 8GB of space on the SD card
>> and died.
>
> Im surprised at this.. it doesn't -seem- like it should be quite that big.
By my reckoning in terms of how long I think it should take to build (18
hours or so), it was only about half way through by the time it ran out
of disk space. So I expect it to be significantly bigger than this.
That seems to big.. almost like there is a memory issue ie hitting a
4gig limit and starting over or something weird or it is rebuilding it
too many times.
>> Considering how much I've had to build from src.rpms
(shockingly, I've
>> not yet found anything that actually failed to build cleanly), I'm
>> half-tempted to put up a repository of my own when I'm done. Given that
>> ARM netbooks are becoming more popular I'm sure I won't be the only one
>> looking for these.
>
> I was hoping the f13 would be released for xmas. :) but it appears like
> f12 is going to be around a bit longer..
I am reasonably eagerly awaiting F13, but will that build be any more
complete than the F12 build is? If not, I need to be thinking about a
rack of Sheeva Plugs (or maybe Panda Boards) for building the missing
packages. :)
I think it will be more complete. You can supposedly get an account on
the arm koji, but as mentioned my login did fail. I am assuming the
certificate is wrong for the hostname or it isn't configured correctly
somehow. You can view it by looking at
http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/
In all seriousness, though - it seems that ARM netbooks (and
servers!)
are very much imminently coming in numbers, and I think there should at
least exist a possibility of a comfortable and complete RH/Fedora
experience.
I'm hoping it can be a good possibility too. I'm cheap. I like the
energy savings. :)