Hello Fellows,
There is a question, RH-Germany will produce and sponsor F9 Media for us in Europe. What F9 DVD/CD we want to have. I talked with some of you via IRC but i will take the chance to hear your voices in that matter. Please give me a answer in the next two days, because i must prepare the MediaArt for the German Agency.
cu
Am Dienstag, 13. Mai 2008 20:41:18 schrieb JoergSimon:
Hello Fellows,
There is a question, RH-Germany will produce and sponsor F9 Media for us in Europe. What F9 DVD/CD we want to have. I talked with some of you via IRC but i will take the chance to hear your voices in that matter.
Ah, i forgot - we can have only two different types of Media!
cu Joerg
500 x i386 250 x X84 250 x PPC
from my perspective and the look in the past ...
Regards
gerold
Am Dienstag, den 13.05.2008, 20:41 +0200 schrieb JoergSimon:
Hello Fellows,
There is a question, RH-Germany will produce and sponsor F9 Media for us in Europe. What F9 DVD/CD we want to have. I talked with some of you via IRC but i will take the chance to hear your voices in that matter. Please give me a answer in the next two days, because i must prepare the MediaArt for the German Agency.
cu
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Gerold Kassube wrote:
500 x i386 250 x X84 250 x PPC
from my perspective and the look in the past ...
Regards
gerold
250 PPC? I wouldn't think we had anywhere close to the same amount of PPC users as x86_64 users. All our stats point to completely different figures. Take a look at
http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html
Rahul
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote:
500 x i386 250 x X84 250 x PPC
from my perspective and the look in the past ...
Really there need that much PPC copies? Macs with PPC is fading away and newer Macs are already x86_64.
According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should be:
750 x i386 250 x x86_64
Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media.
Regards, Baris Cicek TR - ANKARA Ambassador
[1] http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html
Regards
gerold
Am Dienstag, den 13.05.2008, 20:41 +0200 schrieb JoergSimon:
Hello Fellows,
There is a question, RH-Germany will produce and sponsor F9 Media for us in Europe. What F9 DVD/CD we want to have. I talked with some of you via IRC but i will take the chance to hear your voices in that matter. Please give me a answer in the next two days, because i must prepare the MediaArt for the German Agency.
cu
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On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 22:11 +0300, Baris Cicek wrote:
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote:
500 x i386 250 x X84 250 x PPC
from my perspective and the look in the past ...
Really there need that much PPC copies? Macs with PPC is fading away and newer Macs are already x86_64.
According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should be:
750 x i386 250 x x86_64
Agreed, PPC is not really something I'd recommend producing in this case. And I'd aim for Live CD media instead of DVD if you have to choose. Not only can people install from them, but they can also turn their images into Live USB without having to download many hundreds of MB first. :-)
Le Wed, 14 May 2008 14:46:19 +0000, "Paul W. Frields" stickster@gmail.com a écrit :
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 22:11 +0300, Baris Cicek wrote:
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote:
500 x i386 250 x X84 250 x PPC
from my perspective and the look in the past ...
Really there need that much PPC copies? Macs with PPC is fading away and newer Macs are already x86_64.
According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should be:
750 x i386 250 x x86_64
Agreed, PPC is not really something I'd recommend producing in this case. And I'd aim for Live CD media instead of DVD if you have to choose. Not only can people install from them, but they can also turn their images into Live USB without having to download many hundreds of MB first. :-)
Couldn't the number of media be produced according to the upcoming events in Europe ?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents?highlight=(events)#head-856eb4616...
I was thinking of about 250-300 give away livecds for the upcoming French Install Party (22th June) and for the Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre (Worldwide FOSS Meetings) in Mont-de-Marsan in July (about 3 000 attendees each year).
Is it doable that they be available before the 22nd of June (I guess this is too close a date...) :/
Thomas
On Wed, 14 May 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Agreed, PPC is not really something I'd recommend producing in this case. And I'd aim for Live CD media instead of DVD if you have to choose. Not only can people install from them, but they can also turn their images into Live USB without having to download many hundreds of MB first. :-)
Once, long ago, we produced x86_64 and ppc DVDs. We stopped, not because those architectures aren't important, but because the people who *asked for media* never wanted those. Just make as many Live CDs as possible, and a few DVDs.
--Max
2008/5/13 Baris Cicek baris@teamforce.name.tr:
According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should be:
750 x i386 250 x x86_64
Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media.
There are still many people using PPC, i think burn 50 of them, could help people who are still using a obsolete system to use Fedora.
That's my perspective.
Francesco
p.s. i've two PPC pcs and i'm using F9 on both machines.
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:12:26PM +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
2008/5/13 Baris Cicek baris@teamforce.name.tr:
According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should be:
750 x i386 250 x x86_64
Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media.
There are still many people using PPC, i think burn 50 of them, could help people who are still using a obsolete system to use Fedora.
That's my perspective.
Francesco
p.s. i've two PPC pcs and i'm using F9 on both machines.
No one is denying that there are some ppc Fedora users. I sure hope there are, for the efforts the ppc architcture team and release-engineering put into it.
However, producing media costs money; producing pressed media for small batches (e.g. 50) costs more per-unit than producing larger batches (~1000).
A quick look at the number of Unique IP addresses downloading Fedora 9 media this week shows:
ppc: 4201 ( 2.6%) x86_64: 37074 (23.0%) i386: 119845 (74.4%)
So, a split of 75% i386 and 25% x86_64 seems entirely appropriate to me, and a good use of the money.
If Ambassadors wish to burn ppc media themselves to bring, they are of course welcome and encouraged to do so.
-Matt
Hi
Is there any Offcial Cover for Fedora 9 DVD? If possible send all the ambassador the link of the official cover for Fedora 9 dvd/cd?
Regards, Rashadul Islam Fedora Ambassador, Montreal GPG: 5557BFAC
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Matt Domsch matt@domsch.com wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:12:26PM +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
2008/5/13 Baris Cicek baris@teamforce.name.tr:
According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should be:
750 x i386 250 x x86_64
Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media.
There are still many people using PPC, i think burn 50 of them, could help people who are still using a obsolete system to use Fedora.
That's my perspective.
Francesco
p.s. i've two PPC pcs and i'm using F9 on both machines.
No one is denying that there are some ppc Fedora users. I sure hope there are, for the efforts the ppc architcture team and release-engineering put into it.
However, producing media costs money; producing pressed media for small batches (e.g. 50) costs more per-unit than producing larger batches (~1000).
A quick look at the number of Unique IP addresses downloading Fedora 9 media this week shows:
ppc: 4201 ( 2.6%) x86_64: 37074 (23.0%) i386: 119845 (74.4%)
So, a split of 75% i386 and 25% x86_64 seems entirely appropriate to me, and a good use of the money.
If Ambassadors wish to burn ppc media themselves to bring, they are of course welcome and encouraged to do so.
-Matt
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Rashadul Islam wrote:
Hi
Is there any Offcial Cover for Fedora 9 DVD? If possible send all the ambassador the link of the official cover for Fedora 9 dvd/cd?
Hi Rashadul,
Did you already checked out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 ? ;-)
Cheers,
On Fri, 16 May 2008, Matt Domsch wrote:
No one is denying that there are some ppc Fedora users. I sure hope there are, for the efforts the ppc architcture team and release-engineering put into it.
However, producing media costs money; producing pressed media for small batches (e.g. 50) costs more per-unit than producing larger batches (~1000).
A quick look at the number of Unique IP addresses downloading Fedora 9 media this week shows:
ppc: 4201 ( 2.6%) x86_64: 37074 (23.0%) i386: 119845 (74.4%)
So, a split of 75% i386 and 25% x86_64 seems entirely appropriate to me, and a good use of the money.
If Ambassadors wish to burn ppc media themselves to bring, they are of course welcome and encouraged to do so.
For what it's worth, I agree with Matt. And I'll add this observation: while about 25% of the *downloads* are for x86_64, I would say that about 5% of the *requests at shows* are for x86_64. It is almost entirely not worth it to print anything en masse other than x86 Live CDs and DVDs.
I learned that the hard way, back in FC6, when I couldn't get rid of the x86_64 and PPC stuff that we printed to save my life. Except for that one dude at FOSDEM who paid us 2 Euros for a PPC DVD. That was awesome.
--Max
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