On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 10:30 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
On 9 July 2015 at 15:23, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Oh, just so that everyone knows - this can actually be done in trac
> -preferences. People that want notifications from the trac can ask
the
> trac admins to add their e-mail addresses to the list - a nice opt
-in
> system exists.
Not nice enough because it requires me to interrupt a human who would
otherwise have better things to do.
As opposed to interrupting the infrastructure folks? :P
I know what you mean, but really, it's not that much work especially if
there are multiple admins to a trac instance.
> In general though, while I'm for regional lists for focussed
> discussion, I prefer using one main list. It ensures that the
entire
> community is aware of the discussion that happens - folks from
regions
> other than APAC that are generally interested in happenings of the
> global community shouldn't have to join each mailing list, which
seems
> to be the case at the moment. Even though I'm on multiple lists
I disagree. In my experience, while there are a subset of people
interested in the specifics of what is happening in other regions,
most subscribers to major lists would rather not have gory details
landing in their mailbox all the time.
The only complains I've seen on the ambassadors list is about spam
posts. Most people don't mind getting e-mails that don't concern them
or their regions - they seem to be happy to skim the subject since it
gives them some idea of what's going on, i.e., keeps them in the loop.
It is the responsibility of
the regional communities to regularly update global lists of any
major
happenings, but that is different from peppering, say, the
ambassadors
list on the details of how to prioritize the APAC budget for various
events that will be happening in APAC over the year. Providing a
summary of the discussion on the ambassadors list is obviously a much
better idea.
Oh, completely, but I've rarely seen any regional list providing such
summaries. If they do that, I'm for as many mailing lists as people
want.
> (reaching about 50 now!!), I don't know what's happening in the
> Indonesia community (just for example) - it's just too hard. So,
unless
> the list is created because folks want to use a regional language,
for
> example, I'd prefer sticking to the main ambassadors list for
> discussions.
>
> Basically, we already struggle with the lack of communication
between
> fedora teams from time to time, and specific mailing lists have the
> tendency to exacerbate this :(
Different team lists is the least of the reasons for the lack of
communication between teams.
I'd like to know what you think the main reasons are in that case so
that we can look at how they can be addressed to improve communication
in the community.
I, personally, strongly believe that fragmentation into small groups is
one of the primary reasons - it adds an additional burden of updating
the entire community with summaries, and therefore, no one really does
it - not regional ambassador lists, generally not even different teams.
If you want to know what a team is doing, you need to join their list
and keep up with their work yourself.
--
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha