Hi,
As some of you might be aware already, I am working on several regional language spins and have created a basic set of kickstart files that can be easily reused to create say a Fedora Greek Spin or French Spin or whatever language you use and want to promote. All of the Indian language spins inherit
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-base-desktop-localize...
Then merely add the language code, timezone settings and language support. One example is
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks
This is simple enough and since many of the ambassadors are involved with the L10N efforts in Fedora, I would encourage you to take a look at this and promote spin variants for your local language. If you need any help, feel free to mail to fedora-livecd-list. More information at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
If you want to propose the spin officially,
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins
If you need help with the processes, let me know. I am mether on freenode IRC and usually hang out in #fedora-devel, #fedora-india and other channels.
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
Hi,
As some of you might be aware already, I am working on several regional language spins and have created a basic set of kickstart files that can be easily reused to create say a Fedora Greek Spin or French Spin or whatever language you use and want to promote. All of the Indian language spins inherit
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-base-desktop-localize...
Then merely add the language code, timezone settings and language support. One example is
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks
This is simple enough and since many of the ambassadors are involved with the L10N efforts in Fedora, I would encourage you to take a look at this and promote spin variants for your local language. If you need any help, feel free to mail to fedora-livecd-list. More information at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
If you want to propose the spin officially,
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins
If you need help with the processes, let me know. I am mether on freenode IRC and usually hang out in #fedora-devel, #fedora-india and other channels.
Rahul
Hello,
I'm very interested in making a LiveCD for my native language (French).
Thanks to Rahul's work, I've already rebuilt a spin, which is currently tested by some friends of mine.
I'll be glad to offer my work on Fedora Spins (I had previously built a livecd in French for fc6, but it was hosted only on our fedora-fr.org server).
It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files based on official Fedora live cds ?
Johan
Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files based on official Fedora live cds ?
Just follow
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins. If you need any help, let me know.
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files based on official Fedora live cds ?
Just follow
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins. If you need any help, let me know.
Rahul
Hi,
I've followed the first step described in this page, and then I'm a bit stucked - I think it's still a bit obscure.
Here is the mail exchange I had with the board :
Johan Cwiklinski a écrit :
Bill Nottingham a écrit :
Jesse Keating (jkeating@redhat.com) said:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:17:50 +0100 Johan Cwiklinski johan@x-tnd.be wrote:
Hi,
Following the localized spin proposed by Rahul (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-February/msg001...) I've made one for my native language (French).
As the first step of approval for this custom spin, I submit you the relevant .ks file.
Regards, Johan
Well, it's not changing much, so there isn't much to review. I still think doing an entire spin just to pick a different local seems silly. But from the technical POV the kickstart itself is sound.
Especially since the default livecd already includes French support.
Bill
If it's installed by default, that is not the default language.
What would you think of a distro coming with a default keyboard layout/language/timezone that is different from yours ?
For a live usb, this can be changed, but not for a livecd.
French guys (and I think this is also true for many languages) will not be interested in something that does not feet their needs. Also, we always need to login again to gnome for the language to be changed.
That's why I thing localized livecds is a very good idea. I've already made a such spin for FC6, this experience was successful.
French community have its own server, I can use it to make a torrent for my localized livecd, but not all languages have this luck.
So, what should I do ? Shall I continue the official spin registration, or hosting it on our french webserver (maybe with a link to it from official website) ?
Regards, Johan
PS: we had a discussion on irc #fedora-mktg about this, it appears that a tool should share commons bits, a big part of the problem will be solved, but actually, that tool does not exists.
Bill Nottingham a écrit :
Johan Cwiklinski (johan@x-tnd.be) said:
Especially since the default livecd already includes French support.
If it's installed by default, that is not the default language.
What would you think of a distro coming with a default keyboard layout/language/timezone that is different from yours ?
Language can be picked from the greeter; since it's timed, you can pick then. Keyboard support will be added there real soon now.
Not to drag a fedora-devel thread in here, but keyboard layout/timezone may still not be correct for someone in Quebec or Senegal who uses a 'French' livecd.
Bill
Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
So, what should I do ? Shall I continue the official spin registration, or hosting it on our french webserver (maybe with a link to it from official website) ?
For the moment, host it the French website and ask someone in the websites team to link to it from spins.fp.o. We are still discussing how to tackle many concerns with the localized spins. Refer Fedora advisory board list for details.
Rahul
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files based on official Fedora live cds ?
One of my goals for the year is for us to have localized spins at every event that we attend.
This involves:
(1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc.
(2) Having a central location where we inventory those spins -- critically important.
(3) For the large events, mass-producing LiveCDs with those spins.
(4) Having those spins locally on machines at the events so that we can take people's USB keys and turn them into localized Fedora LiveUSBs.
--Max
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:00:13 -0500 (EST) Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
(1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc.
(2) Having a central location where we inventory those spins -- critically important.
(3) For the large events, mass-producing LiveCDs with those spins.
(4) Having those spins locally on machines at the events so that we can take people's USB keys and turn them into localized Fedora LiveUSBs.
(5) Having long term storage plans for the spins + the sources used to create the spins
(6) Having enough QA heads to wrap around all these new spins that will be popping up of mixed package sets / ages
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Jesse Keating wrote:
(1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc.
(2) Having a central location where we inventory those spins -- critically important.
(3) For the large events, mass-producing LiveCDs with those spins.
(4) Having those spins locally on machines at the events so that we can take people's USB keys and turn them into localized Fedora LiveUSBs.
(5) Having long term storage plans for the spins + the sources used to create the spins
(6) Having enough QA heads to wrap around all these new spins that will be popping up of mixed package sets / ages
Indeed. In fact, I believe those are some of the things that Rahul is taking into consideration in his "so you want to make a localized spin of Fedora" walkthrough/process document.
--Max
Em Dom, 2008-02-24 às 22:00 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files based on official Fedora live cds ?
One of my goals for the year is for us to have localized spins at every event that we attend.
This involves:
(1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc.
I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there are a few things I am concerned about.
For instance, the use of Codeina. It doesn't make sense here in Brazil because people should have an international credit card to pay for the codecs, besides the interface is not even translated. This is critical to warn the users about the use of this codecs.
The easiest solution is to drop codeina from our spin, the other one could be offer a different implementation respecting each national legislation about IP. I don't have the legal background to talk about it, but we could investigate the possibility to offer via Codeina those codecs that are not possible in the US. Additionally, other local groups could investigate if there are problems with the current implementation, there may be countries more restricted than US.
I know this is very complex and controversial, but I am just thinking about the possible scenarios and just for distribution in events.
The translation issue could we solved integrating Codeina into the Transifex system, since it does not appear to be available in the GNOME project translations as well.
Local Language spins are definitely a good idea and we could improve it respecting the local differences, which by the way turns it in a more complicated issue.
Regards, Igor Pires Soares
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Igor Pires Soares igorsoares@gmail.com wrote:
Em Dom, 2008-02-24 às 22:00 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files based on official Fedora live cds ?
One of my goals for the year is for us to have localized spins at every event that we attend.
This involves:
(1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc.
I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there are a few things I am concerned about.
For instance, the use of Codeina. It doesn't make sense here in Brazil because people should have an international credit card to pay for the codecs, besides the interface is not even translated. This is critical to warn the users about the use of this codecs.
The easiest solution is to drop codeina from our spin, the other one could be offer a different implementation respecting each national legislation about IP. I don't have the legal background to talk about it, but we could investigate the possibility to offer via Codeina those codecs that are not possible in the US. Additionally, other local groups could investigate if there are problems with the current implementation, there may be countries more restricted than US.
I know this is very complex and controversial, but I am just thinking about the possible scenarios and just for distribution in events.
The translation issue could we solved integrating Codeina into the Transifex system, since it does not appear to be available in the GNOME project translations as well.
Local Language spins are definitely a good idea and we could improve it respecting the local differences, which by the way turns it in a more complicated issue.
Regards, Igor Pires Soares
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Thats a very good question Igor,
Can local spins include FOSS that could otherwise not be included? For instance, in Mexico there are no such things as software patents. Thus making things like DVD CSS and MP3 patents not legal, of course we're supposed to respect the patents of USA and Canada, but as far as I know that has yet to be tested in court and IANAL.
Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, would it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and whatnot that could not be included in the official Fedora repositories due to patents?
Juan Rodriguez wrote:
Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, would it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and whatnot that could not be included in the official Fedora repositories due to patents?
AFAIK, no. Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is included in the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal entity behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be legal in U.S
Rahul
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Juan Rodriguez wrote:
Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, would it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and whatnot that could not be included in the official Fedora repositories due to
patents?
AFAIK, no. Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is included in the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal entity behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be legal in U.S
Rahul
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Thanks for clearing that up :-)
Em Seg, 2008-02-25 às 15:02 -0600, Juan Rodriguez escreveu:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote: Juan Rodriguez wrote:
> Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, would > it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and whatnot that > could not be included in the official Fedora repositories due to patents? AFAIK, no. Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is included in the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal entity behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be legal in U.S Rahul
Note that my question is a little bit different. What I am trying to figure out is weather we can make modifications in Codeina configuration in order to support other codecs packages in some regions, not to include codecs directly on the distribution, because of what Rahul and Max said.
I am in favor to keep the local language spin package selection as near as possible to the LiveCD, as well as the default applications. We could just add or remove some of them to fit the local needs. That's why I am considering this things about Codeina. The current implementation does not correspond to our reality. If we can't change it, I see no point to keep it in our local spin.
Regards, Igor Pires Soares
Igor Pires Soares wrote:
Note that my question is a little bit different. What I am trying to figure out is weather we can make modifications in Codeina configuration in order to support other codecs packages in some regions, not to include codecs directly on the distribution, because of what Rahul and Max said.
Modifications to Codeina can be made to support alternative sources and third party repositories can contain configuration files that drop the necessary changes into codeina itself but official spins cannot carry any configuration changes that directly point codeina to alternative sources since that could potentially lead to contributory infringement claims.
Rahul
Em Ter, 2008-02-26 às 06:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escreveu:
Igor Pires Soares wrote:
Note that my question is a little bit different. What I am trying to figure out is whether we can make modifications in Codeina configuration in order to support other codecs packages in some regions, not to include codecs directly on the distribution, because of what Rahul and Max said.
Modifications to Codeina can be made to support alternative sources and third party repositories can contain configuration files that drop the necessary changes into codeina itself but official spins cannot carry any configuration changes that directly point codeina to alternative sources since that could potentially lead to contributory infringement claims.
Rahul
Thanks for clarifying it Rahul.
I will discuss with other Brazilian Ambassadors how we can offer a reliable spin to be distributed at FISL and other events. With or without Codeina we will deliver one more innovation to our users. The local language spins will be an important step to Fedora adoption.
Regards, Igor Pires Soares
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, would it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and whatnot that could not be included in the official Fedora repositories due to patents?
AFAIK, no. Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is included in the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal entity behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be legal in U.S
If you include anything in a spin that is not in the Fedora repositories, then the spin can no longer be called "Fedora".
But on a *technical* level, you can do whatever you want. But to call something Fedora, it must contain Fedora-only packages.
--Max
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Igor Pires Soares wrote:
I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there are a few things I am concerned about.
I am interested in this as well, especially with FISL coming up in April. It would be great to have a Brazilian Portugues spin that folks can use.
Here is how I would encourage you to start (and actually how I would encourage anyone who wants to begin dabbling with a custom spin to start):
(1) Install the livecd-tools package on your machine, and take a look at the .ks files that were used to create the "official" Fedora 8 spins.
(2) Using those as an inspiration, create a .ks file for yourself, that is what you believe the ideal desktop package set for someone living in Brazil, who is a native speaker would want to use.
(3) Build it using livecd-creator, and test it out a bit. One good way to do this is by putting it on a USB key with the livecd-iso-to-disk utility.
(4) Once you are pretty happy, publish your .ks file for others to look at and suggest comments on. This will all be based on Fedora 8.
(5) OPTIONAL -- FISL is on April 17th, by which point we are likely to have a release candidate for Fedora 9. Once your Fedora 8 spin is working like a charm, you can change the repositories to point to development and see what the same spin, coming from Rawhide looks like. We would have to do significant testing of it, but it's likely to only get better and better as Fedora 9 approaches.
(6) We figure out a plan for maintenance of the spin, and for hosting of the ISOs. But until there is something actually working, this is not much of a worry, because it's simply a bunch of text in a .ks file, and hosting that is trivial.
--Max
Max Spevack wrote:
(6) We figure out a plan for maintenance of the spin, and for hosting of the ISOs. But until there is something actually working, this is not much of a worry, because it's simply a bunch of text in a .ks file, and hosting that is trivial.
Basically there *cannot* be a problem in getting a live spin in any language pass Q&A if the (default) language is all that has changed, or if OOo(-langpack) is all that has been added. Part of how Release Engineering and Q&A wanted to compose the live spins had to do reproducibility, so if the same spin off the same tree is being reproduced several times with only a different language each, giving a thumbs up to each of those spins should be a breeze. Quality cannot be a problem considering the way the compose tools have been set up, and if quantity is a problem, really, you're back to a quality problem in the compose tools and reproducibility becomes utopia.
Hosting the ISOs (considering the footprint) is the tricky part I'd like to get involved with. Or actually, it's the amount of downloading from the user perspective that I'm concerned with, but it's the same difference.
Presumably, ~90% of the localized Live Spins (or any Live Spin?) is the same, give or take a dozen. I'm seeking a way to not have to host/download that ~90% twice or even more often. It's a squashfs in ISO9660, I'm sure there is a way of finding out what blocks match between the spins (squashfs) and get something jigdo-like to reduce the spin's footprints to a bare minimum.
This could potentially include modifications to livecd-tools as to make the common bits end up on ext3 in a way that makes them go in the same place on the squashfs image, and finally on the ISO9660 image, but that is beyond the scope of what I would want to do for a showcase.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:08:09 +0100 Jeroen van Meeuwen kanarip@kanarip.com wrote:
Basically there *cannot* be a problem in getting a live spin in any language pass Q&A if the (default) language is all that has changed, or if OOo(-langpack) is all that has been added. Part of how Release Engineering and Q&A wanted to compose the live spins had to do reproducibility, so if the same spin off the same tree is being reproduced several times with only a different language each, giving a thumbs up to each of those spins should be a breeze. Quality cannot be a problem considering the way the compose tools have been set up, and if quantity is a problem, really, you're back to a quality problem in the compose tools and reproducibility becomes utopia.
That depends on having all the languages composed at once, or composed only against the GOLD release packages. The QA issues come in when each language is spun with a different set of updates included, which may or may not effect the user experience, particularly installing.
Em Seg, 2008-02-25 às 15:08 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Igor Pires Soares wrote:
I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there are a few things I am concerned about.
I am interested in this as well, especially with FISL coming up in April. It would be great to have a Brazilian Portugues spin that folks can use.
I will start some tests here. Possibly, in April we will have a pretty stable Fedora 8 spin and maybe a Rawhide one. I am sure that the Fedora LiveUSB key feature will be a cool thing to implement at FISL, because last year we already had some people asking for it.
Igor Pires Soares wrote:
Em Seg, 2008-02-25 às 15:08 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Igor Pires Soares wrote:
I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there are a few things I am concerned about.
I am interested in this as well, especially with FISL coming up in April. It would be great to have a Brazilian Portugues spin that folks can use.
I will start some tests here. Possibly, in April we will have a pretty stable Fedora 8 spin and maybe a Rawhide one. I am sure that the Fedora LiveUSB key feature will be a cool thing to implement at FISL, because last year we already had some people asking for it.
Note that there is a Windows version available too at
https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
Rahul
Rahul,
keep it up your good work :)
Danishka
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi,
As some of you might be aware already, I am working on several regional language spins and have created a basic set of kickstart files that can be easily reused to create say a Fedora Greek Spin or French Spin or whatever language you use and want to promote. All of the Indian language spins inherit
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-base-desktop-localize...
Then merely add the language code, timezone settings and language support. One example is
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks
This is simple enough and since many of the ambassadors are involved with the L10N efforts in Fedora, I would encourage you to take a look at this and promote spin variants for your local language. If you need any help, feel free to mail to fedora-livecd-list. More information at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
If you want to propose the spin officially,
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins
If you need help with the processes, let me know. I am mether on freenode IRC and usually hang out in #fedora-devel, #fedora-india and other channels.
Rahul
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi,
As some of you might be aware already, I am working on several regional language spins and have created a basic set of kickstart files that can be easily reused to create say a Fedora Greek Spin or French Spin or whatever language you use and want to promote. All of the Indian language spins inherit
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-base-desktop-localize...
Then merely add the language code, timezone settings and language support. One example is
http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks
This is simple enough and since many of the ambassadors are involved with the L10N efforts in Fedora, I would encourage you to take a look at this and promote spin variants for your local language. If you need any help, feel free to mail to fedora-livecd-list. More information at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo
If you want to propose the spin officially,
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins
If you need help with the processes, let me know. I am mether on freenode IRC and usually hang out in #fedora-devel, #fedora-india and other channels.
Rahul
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I made Croatian spin of Fedora Live CD. Please check it out. I build an iso file and tested it in VirtualBox and it works great.
Cheers, Valent .
Em Seg, 2008-03-24 às 20:59 +0100, Valent Turkovic escreveu:
I made Croatian spin of Fedora Live CD. Please check it out. I build an iso file and tested it in VirtualBox and it works great.
Cheers, Valent
By the way, does anybody know if there is a guideline about the creation of spins?
I would like to make something special for events in Brazil, but some people in the development list are radical against some changes.
For instance, I would like change the following things in the original Live CD spin:
* Change the package selection * Set nautilus default navigation to browser mode * Maybe put a different wallpaper related to the event, with the Fedora logo. * Fix the liveinst icon in the desktop
The issue is that I don't know what is valid and what is not. That's why I need a official word about this.
If none of that is possible the Local Language Spins are pointless, because it will just be about changing the language.
We created the .ks files based on Rahul's ones. If someone wants to take a look, here it goes: http://igor.fedorapeople.org/spin-pt_BR/
Note that we are not including any packages from extra repositories, neither proprietary or patented content. Everything is from Fedora official repositories.
Regards, Igor
Igor Pires Soares wrote:
Em Seg, 2008-03-24 às 20:59 +0100, Valent Turkovic escreveu:
I made Croatian spin of Fedora Live CD. Please check it out. I build an iso file and tested it in VirtualBox and it works great.
Cheers, Valent
By the way, does anybody know if there is a guideline about the creation of spins?
I would like to make something special for events in Brazil, but some people in the development list are radical against some changes.
For instance, I would like change the following things in the original Live CD spin:
- Change the package selection
- Set nautilus default navigation to browser mode
- Maybe put a different wallpaper related to the event, with the Fedora
logo.
- Fix the liveinst icon in the desktop
1) would be valid usually 2) Probably not 3) Should be ok 4) Must be fixed in livecd-creator itself. File a bug report.
Rahul
Em Ter, 2008-03-25 às 06:16 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escreveu:
Igor Pires Soares wrote:
By the way, does anybody know if there is a guideline about the creation of spins?
I would like to make something special for events in Brazil, but some people in the development list are radical against some changes.
For instance, I would like change the following things in the original Live CD spin:
- Change the package selection
- Set nautilus default navigation to browser mode
- Maybe put a different wallpaper related to the event, with the Fedora
logo.
- Fix the liveinst icon in the desktop
- would be valid usually
- Probably not
- Should be ok
- Must be fixed in livecd-creator itself. File a bug report.
Rahul
Thanks for clarifying it Rahul.
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 06:16 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Igor Pires Soares wrote:
Em Seg, 2008-03-24 às 20:59 +0100, Valent Turkovic escreveu:
I made Croatian spin of Fedora Live CD. Please check it out. I build an iso file and tested it in VirtualBox and it works great.
Cheers, Valent
By the way, does anybody know if there is a guideline about the creation of spins?
I would like to make something special for events in Brazil, but some people in the development list are radical against some changes.
For instance, I would like change the following things in the original Live CD spin:
- Change the package selection
- Set nautilus default navigation to browser mode
- Maybe put a different wallpaper related to the event, with the Fedora
logo.
- Fix the liveinst icon in the desktop
- would be valid usually
- Probably not
- Should be ok
- Must be fixed in livecd-creator itself. File a bug report.
A spins policy is being drafted, but the most important guideline is that to use the Fedora name, a spin can only include software from the Fedora repository.
Currently I don't think we have any cut and dried rules on what sort of default-changing is acceptable. Some people have indicated that changing default behaviors in %post is acceptable. I think maybe this is not the right time or place to simply declare what's in that policy.
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