Hi Ambassadors,
Maybe this has been raised before but I would like to raise the question of overall goals, metrics and accountability in relation to the success of this Fedora project.
Perhaps we could open the discussion around overall strategy for the project in regards to adoption (what we want to achieve? by when? how?), maybe we could look at some numbers and agree on tactical activities which are directly impacting those?
Run it like a business meeting?
This is what I can do to contribute on a tangible manner to that goal.
Also there must be a way to measure success. Are we tracking regional downloads to know if our efforts as ambassadors are having a measurable impact?
The closest I´ve seen around this is an email from Matthew on event strategy. But (myself at least) I see events as only a tactical activity, what about PR work? technology partnerships? (docker) academic adoption? (charitable ICT work?) training programs? (free course on linux?)
And maybe could we suggest 1 monthly (biweekly at most) meeting via video call in addition to the IRC meetings. Maybe an idea to make things more engaging for new ambassadors?
Thanks for your feedback.
Cesar
And apologies in advance if any of this is out of line by the way... just a rookie here after all
On 25 February 2015 at 09:12, Cesar Pinto cesar.a.pinto@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ambassadors,
Maybe this has been raised before but I would like to raise the question of overall goals, metrics and accountability in relation to the success of this Fedora project.
Perhaps we could open the discussion around overall strategy for the project in regards to adoption (what we want to achieve? by when? how?), maybe we could look at some numbers and agree on tactical activities which are directly impacting those?
Run it like a business meeting?
This is what I can do to contribute on a tangible manner to that goal.
Also there must be a way to measure success. Are we tracking regional downloads to know if our efforts as ambassadors are having a measurable impact?
The closest I´ve seen around this is an email from Matthew on event strategy. But (myself at least) I see events as only a tactical activity, what about PR work? technology partnerships? (docker) academic adoption? (charitable ICT work?) training programs? (free course on linux?)
And maybe could we suggest 1 monthly (biweekly at most) meeting via video call in addition to the IRC meetings. Maybe an idea to make things more engaging for new ambassadors?
Thanks for your feedback.
Cesar
-- Cesar Pinto +47 481 20 772
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 09:12:44AM +0100, Cesar Pinto wrote:
Maybe this has been raised before but I would like to raise the question of overall goals, metrics and accountability in relation to the success of this Fedora project.
This sounds great!
Also there must be a way to measure success. Are we tracking regional downloads to know if our efforts as ambassadors are having a measurable impact?
Stephen Smoogen does have some of those numbers. It's a lot of guesswork.
The closest I´ve seen around this is an email from Matthew on event strategy. But (myself at least) I see events as only a tactical activity, what about PR work? technology partnerships? (docker) academic adoption? (charitable ICT work?) training programs? (free course on linux?)
Nice! Have you seen the effort to create a higher-level outreach steering committee, which would encompass ambassadors, marketing, design, etc? It hasn't really gotten off the ground yet, but hopefully it can be a place for this higher-level kind of conversation. (Although starting here is awesome -- don't let me derail!)
On 25.02.2015 09:12, Cesar Pinto wrote:
Maybe this has been raised before but I would like to raise the question of overall goals, metrics and accountability in relation to the success of this Fedora project. Perhaps we could open the discussion around overall strategy for the project in regards to adoption (what we want to achieve? by when? how?),
I see this as a clear topic for the outreach list, maybe they work on this topic already - or abandoned it already ;) maybe you should join their discussion (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/outreach/)
What works for code, commits and infrastructure changes, does imho not always work for the work that the Ambassadors are doing - a lot of it can not be just measured. We tried in the past - to measure events, invests, new contributors to all our groups - and i think it was helping future planning (a bit) but it was not worth the effort if i look at the time invested and we never will measure the catalytic influence we had with our activities, presence
Run it like a business meeting?
i suggest to join the Ambassadors Meeting (maybe you already joined some) and also the planning Activity days to learn how we do it at the moment then make suggestion for improvements.
Also there must be a way to measure success. Are we tracking regional downloads to know if our efforts as ambassadors are having a measurable impact?
for ambassadors there are measures in place how money is spend, event-reporting is done, group-development etc. i think we found a good middle-way in the last years. The stats, measures for other groups than Ambassadors, should to be discussed in these groups or at counsil level.
regarding users - smolt is dead and the download stats are imho not accurate enough to draw the conclusions that you want
Ambassadors can measure new contributors that they mentored and teached to join the Fedora Project - and as long as they can achieve their personal goals with contribution i think this is quality measurement enough.
But (myself at least) I see events as only a tactical activity,
maybe it will change your view if you join/represent Fedora on FOSS Events - there is much more than just tactical activities
what about PR work? technology partnerships? (docker) academic adoption? (charitable ICT work?) training programs? (free course on linux?)
Ambassadors already support/did/do all this ;)
And maybe could we suggest 1 monthly (biweekly at most) meeting via video call in addition to the IRC meetings. Maybe an idea to make things more engaging for new ambassadors?
organize it and look who joins ;)
and please do not get me wrong - i also suggest to look through the Ambassadors archives to learn where we failed and some history so we do not the same again and again.
Thanks for your input!
cu Joerg
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