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On 03/10/2016 04:30 AM, Jona Azizaj wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Jona here, Fedora Ambassador from Albania. I saw it fit to
write to the mailing list after being looped in one of the
meetings FAmSCo had yesterday on 9th March.
>
> I try to regularly check the logs of the meetings which feel
important to me, so the last FAmSCo meeting was no exception here.
Somewhere down the line in the meeting, around 15:43 in the log
[1] a discussion around the definition of "community" in Albania
and Greece sparked, specifically initiated by Robert Scheck, which
on behalf of the community I represent, we find troubling:
>
>
> * "Sorry, but you can not treat Albania as a real community
so far. We had the same "community" in Greece some years ago - and
after 2 years, most of them went away...to Mozilla."
>
> * "a community is something that exists for really a lot of
years and is healthy"
>
>
> Although initially a surprising statement, I went on to read
further clarification, however there was no resolution found, with
the suggestion coming up that this should be taken to the mailing
list, which I am doing so hereby.
>
> So, since there has been a discussion taking place where
Albania's contributions (and so also my contributions) have been
mentioned without me being present, I would hate to keep silent
about this. As someone who led grassroots efforts to start up the
Fedora community in Albania, dedicating more time to the Fedora
project than anything else in my free time, seeing comments like
these from a fellow Fedora Ambassador (let alone mentor) is
insulting to the hundreds of hours of work put in by fellow
community members in Albania, including myself. Seeing myself in
this position, I also doubt that any contributor from Greece feels
comfortable in a similar fashion with these comments.
>
> I didn't want this topic to sink in the meeting logs, so I
brought it up here in the mailing list to gather your general
feedback and thoughts on this matter (and to avoid this in the
future ideally).
>
> I am deeply concerned with comments like this out of nowhere,
and think that there are others sharing my concerns.
>
> On behalf of the Albanian Fedora community.
> Jona Azizaj
>
> [1]
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-03-09/famsco.2016-03-09-14.02.html
>
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Jona,
Please rest assured it was meant more a statement that the community
is not as mature as others, not in any way a knock on your efforts.
Many projects and efforts sadly last merely as long as the initial
starter(s) are able / willing to stay involved --this is more the
logic of that comment, although it came out much more harsh.
Hope this clarifies it more and eases your concerns.
Regards,
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