Hi,

Sorry for the late answer but I was a bit busy last week.


Am 25.07.2017 um 05:17 schrieb Brian Exelbierd:
Sirko (and everyone),

I've been reading your multi-part series on how you're doing the F26
release party in Phnom Penh. 

I think this is a fantastic idea.  I like that you are working directly
with lots of future members of the IT working groups in Cambodia and
likely future contributors.  I really appreciate how using Fedora as a
base has let you talk about all kinds of technology and firmly introduce
it.  Students are a hard audience, and it seems like you've found a
great low-resource high energy way to engage them.  This is awesome. 
Keep your posts coming.

I think these kind of release parties create an opportunity for existing
contributors and ambassadors to really bond with potential community
members.  Many of our activities don't seem to have obvious followup.  I
would be surprised if there isn't clear followup by Sirko here as he
will obviously have invested a lot of time and made friends (by showing
off freedom, features and first).  What other ideas could we do like
this in your region?

yes there was a lot of time investment, the organizing of it started last year in May/June as I was first time at PNC for discussing their curriculum. The curriculum was changed since then, e.g. is now CENTOS used for teaching Linux basics instead of SLES. We had several meetups, what I in my Fedora role could do to support PNC in their process to get the students ready for their later role.
There will be another more Fedora oriented workshop, where we talk more about Fedora itself. The students know already the relationship Fedora has to CENTOS and looking forward to it. But so far the "Release Party" part is not finished yet. I still have to write a post about the Saturday and there are follow ups, every student did get a questionaire where I have received right now 28/50 after we received all and evaluated them, I will have another meeting with John Munger as head of PNC and Benoit Pitet to make an judgement, if we will do this in future again and where we been good with and where we can do better. So far we have a good feeling, as we made a short round after the party itself. There is another positive outcome, PN has not just a branch in Cambodia they have also one in Da Nang/Viet Nam and Cebu/Philippines so we might do it there in the future to, but lets see.

So it was highly time consuming what I did (and still havent finished yet) but here are all things more time consuming as in Europe or America.

If you want to help the region, then tell some first of all to realize the geographical size of it. They shall take an old atlas and cut out the Philippines and put it over Europe and the same they can do with Indonesia and put it over US. Maybe then they realize a bit of the dimensions and time zone problem we have here and stop to think its totally easy here to organize ONLINE IRC MEETINGS. Not speaking that even a rich country like Singapore has sometimes electricity problems ;)

Time is the biggest issue here, everything costs a lot of time and you have also lesser time. Brian I told you back at FUDCon, Asia would need an Impact by itself. The people have lesser time here to organize things but they are willing to contribute and participate. I remember a discussion with Jeroen and Tuan about motivation of Asians, Tuan and I did not agree that they have to be motivated, they do everything with a lot of passion but organizing things they have a problem with, they lack on expierience for doing it and the time to do it. So the job for this Impact is to organize with the help of the locals, local events. We have also get rid of the thinking that they will be the same kind of contributors as we currently have in other parts of the world. Here we will have more an amount of people that will join an hackfest or sprint. Forget about any idea to that ONLINE, it will not work. Why question yourself, why I never did hear from Yekleang Dy, did she really start with the Web Team? The answer is no, why she doesnt know what IRC is, not what is SSH and and and.... They have a problem to learn such things by themself, they need somebody next to them with an idea, what it is. Therefore you do here better FAD, hackfests and sprints or do you expect me to go to each potential contributor and do it personally? Can do that, send me a cheque for my living costs ;)

But first of all this region needs more attention at all and a changing in thinking of some people. I give you an example, your budget changes created a lot of uncertainty here in APAC what leads to that no money is spent and the activity of all here broke down. So when in future the council or FPL wants to make changes in the budgeting or similar things, come up with a clear plan and not say, we will tell you later.....

Here its anyway more complicated to do things strategically and plan events long ahead, thats why APAC always has the problem spending his budget as planned. If you did read my post I already complained about it. You really commit here sometimes a lot of time in an event and then it doesnt happen and of course Asian dont blog about that, only success stories ;) We will not change that, they seeing that as a failure and telling that in public means they loose their face.

There are ideas for more events, also in the region and not just local, but in the current atmosphere Fedora is in, I will not do.

br gnokii

If you haven't read it, read it now:
http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=4958

regards,

bex
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