On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer
<sspreitzer(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Dear friends,
first of all. I am in no way worried (or concerned) about the africa
expansion of Fedora Project.
I believe from my heart, we will raise, develop and foster a great
thing, based on freedom, inside africa.
In my humble opinion;
IT IS:
- inside EMEA
- an effort to spread the word
- a temporary task force to bootstrap
- to teach how to fish instead of giving the fish
IT IS NOT:
- whether special or not, a governed group inside Fedora Project
- using its own infrastructure, whether logical, virtual or physical
- isolating itself
If YOU feel that this is wrong, then simply STAND UP and DO what you
think is right.
> As many of you may already now, following a recent Ambassadors EMEA
> meeting we decided to focus our efforts on the Africa region too.
Right, we have decided this in EMEA meetings.
Democratically.
> I feel like I need to make some remarks though. EMEA region is a
> region that is used by Fedora Project for organization purposes. There
> is a reason to have uniform tools and processes within EMEA region,
> and that is to make sure everyone has what he needs to act and not to
> create fragmentation in decision making and planning-organizing.
Wrong.
We have the same tools. We are not fragmented.
EMEA focusing on africa.
> EMEA-Africa meeting should serve a temporary role in order to help
> Africa Ambassadors to know each other and help us recognise their
> needs. Ambassadors meeting page [1] is not reflecting this idea and I
> am worried that this could cause fragmentation.
Absolutely wrong.
We are bootstrapping. That is not a standard operating procedure.
Once bootstraping is down to a satisfying amount, we merge back
into EMEA, to have everything on standard procedures operating.
Sascha IMHO that is not something that anyone could understand by the
format of the meeting page.. It seems like a permanent thing. I am
very happy that you think it is not and lets make Meeting page reflect
that. It is just that I dont want to mess with your wiki-edits before
discussing it with you. (all in good-will)
> Moreover I am suggesting that a creation of an Africa SIG could
> promote best the interests of the Africa Initiative [...]
If YOU feel so, then STAND UP and DO.
If you would have listened carefully the last four weeks, you would
know, what we are doing there and that your suggestions make no
sense in the state of bootstrapping.
Please Sascha , don't get mad on me. I am just expressing some
concerns and there is no need to start shouting on the list. I have
listened carefully and joined the whole process.
> Finally, I would like everyone on Africa to know that I am
*totally*
> supporting our focused efforts for expansion in their region and this
> email is simply trying to find/suggest the *best* way of doing so :)
In my humble opinion, it would be best if you could support the recent
developments instead of turning the ship in another direction, which
most people don't understand.
I am supporting full-hearted the recent developments Sascha (I joined
the meeting and co-chaired it with you). I am just discussing over the
whole process and make some remarks. I am *not* in anyway trying to
shut-down the meeting or something like that (how could I, as it was
my idea too).
Peer reviewing the processes is the best thing we can do, and that is
what this mail was about.
Take care my friend,
~pierros
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