Both above and below are true.
We have no rules to decide how we react sponsor requests (or do we?).
I mean in example the following:
What if we have a sponsor giving us 1 Million € or $ and another
sponsoring something small (say 500 €/$ worth). Then they both want to
have their logo on site! What-and-how do we do it? Some might claim more
visibility for a bigger sum and then they start asking reports like
click/view and in which pages they are present etc.
We cannot do that and that's the whole thing I took on the table. We
should have rules for this first -even the "free" money and discounts
are inviting for all but then, after all "there are no such thing as a
free lunch".
--
Jukka
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:05 -0400, Ryan Lewis wrote:
Hey,
Can someone tell me who this sponsor is? We aren't debating just any
sponsor here. We can investigate if this sponsor might be bad for our
image.
-rhl
2010/7/30 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick(a)gmail.com>
2010/7/30 Jukka Palander <jukka(a)devspain.com>
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 12:42 +0200, Mathieu Bridon
wrote:
> On 07/30/2010 12:16 PM, Jukka Palander wrote:
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > Adding commercial logos into the Fedora site is
bit dangerous!
> >
> > At least have to be careful in these:
> >
> > 1) not to give an idea that Fedora has anything to
do with commercial
> > products/companies
> >
> > 2) must be clearly mentioned, that they are
sponsors only (for a
> > particular section) and does not have any other
involvement to the
> > Fedora or its development
> >
> > 3) must be aware who the sponsors are and do they
fit into the "Fedora
> > world"
>
> You do realize we already have some sponsors for
infrastructure and we
> already display their logos on our main page, right?
>
>
Yes, I am not against sponsors. Just wanted to remind
those issues.
We'll never know if we have a (wanna-be) sponsor who
we do not want to
be displayed in the official F-site. For those
situations it is good
that it's been discussed.
As I mentioned in section 3 -> "must be aware who they
are"! --> and
then make the decision!
..or are you happy to take some big money from them to
Fedora and then
find out that the so called sponsor is somehow bad for
us (like
XXX-site, malware or spamming site etc)?
Also, there is always risk that the "sponsor" starts
telling us what to
do because they've paid the money! ..be aware -they
have to be sponsors
and clearly sponsors only!
This issue has nothing to do with the current sponsors
though, but still
I think it is very easy to give an picture that they
have something
deeper to do with Fedora and therefore I would "think
first and act
afterwards".
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I think that BEFORE telling about if the sponsor is good or
bad, we have to tlak about the Discount... is it going to be
an important one?
Something that we can say: "Ok, it's worth the risk" or not,
because we can accept or decline offers as a community but the
important thing
in here is to be awared of the REAL benefit that we can get
from here to the Project.
By example if it is going to be a very little discount and
most of the community thinks it's risky
to accept a sponsor, then, Why accept the Sponsor? Let's talk
about numbers, and then we can make a whole investigation
about the PROS and CONS of a sponsorship.
That's just my opinion.
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