Hello all.

This thread, impressively talks about women and yet, is being held by a 95% of men. Probably you would do a better job if, instead wondering how women feel and what they might nor not do in an IT environment, if you took a minute to ask directly to the awesome women that we have in our community how they manage to contribute and yet, being awesome wifes/mothers/etc.

At India-women mail list we already recommend Mani to create a group more focused into worldwide female issues and discrimination since the ones of us who were reading her lately didn't felt that her bigger view was part of our believes, and since this is a free-of-speech environment, the best we can do is to help Mani to have this more focused group; however, this is far from what Fedora scope is. You are more than welcome to join the India-Women mail list and continue from there.

Now, to Fedora and ambassadors concerns; as some of you might know, I will be giving a talk at Flock (which I hope to be more like a debate and workshop) about women in Fedora (around the world, so all of us can learn about different stuff that happens depending on your region) and hopefully, in that talk, man can have a more real idea of what a women really have to live (the good and the bad) instead wondering what would be the best for us. Fedora women has been technically dead for a long time and the idea is not to revive the group, but to give it a real purpose and a guidelines + role models, instead creating rules on "how man have to treat women" or "how women have to react". Rules usually tend to make people get scared, so the idea is more to offer support.

I'm glad to see the interest, however, I'm sad to see that people only raise their voices when polemic strikes and not on the daily base of how women do on the IT world.




2013/6/2 Neville A. Cross <neville@taygon.com>
El lun, 27-05-2013 a las 17:57 -0430, María Leandro escribió:
> sorry, maybe I needed a bit more of context; LATAM situation with
> female participation is kind of new in what the rest of the world is.
>

This topic is very complex in nature. First most of us are related to
technology which means that we have some level of income. The difference
from urban to rural are really abismal in much countries. Some time just
across neighborhoods. Some clueless NGO are talking about female
empowerment when people are struggling for food, so what we will address
in such context with free software.

I have high hopes for OLPC project, but again what children are
obtaining from having a XO is very different from urban to rural.

There are some things that we also forget, line of time. When I went to
college, was long time ago. When I go to colleges now to speak about
Fedora, ratio female-male it is different from old days. Free software
are usually start ups that are built on spare time that most likely
women does not have because they are supporting their family in house
work.

Most important we are speaking about average, that does not meant that
are that were fostered in a way that they did not grow with this
female-male dichotomy. So you can find very sensitive concerned males
about this issue. And also you can find overconfident females that
dismiss this issue.

I will like to have issues like this on ambassador list. What we will
accomplished as ambassadors if we don't learn how better engage with our
audience. How to be sensitive to some topics and never give them for
granted.



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