2010/8/30 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick@gmail.com>


2010/8/30 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick@gmail.com>


El 30 de agosto de 2010 19:03, Alejandro Pérez <aeperezt@hotmail.com> escribió:

Manuel,

This is not an Ambassadors matters, but you are right about caring for
users, regarding Skype many people use it but if Skype will not work
with the new version of KDE, there is GNOME and it is a matter for Skype
people, not Fedora, we do not package Skype. If Skype want to be ready
on the Linux and KDE world they will take care of that.

Fedora is for innovation as you mention, but seems like you are asking
Fedora to stop doing it because of Skype. I'm sure Fedora Users that
know what Fedora is about will understand.

On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 18:37 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
>
>
> 2010/8/30 inode0 <inode0@gmail.com>
>         2010/8/30 Manuel Escudero <Jmlevick@gmail.com>:
>
>         > Sorry about the shouting... As I see no ambassadors are
>         interested in this
>         > I'm posting my message into KDE, Skype and other forums...
>         For me, the final
>         > user is as important as Fedora.
>
>
>         Slight shift to something that is ambassador related ...
>
>         I'm curious at this point what is it about Fedora that matters
>         to you?
>         Why should these users use Fedora at all? What about Fedora
>         draws you
>         to it and makes you want to promote Fedora?
>
>         John
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> @John: I wrote an article that explains the answer to your question
> for the Fedora LATAM Magazine,
> I'm going to give a brief answer here for you:
>
>
>
>
> 1) What is about fedora that matters to me?
>
>
> It's care for giving the Linux user the most cutting edge technology
> is what has made me
> a faithful follower of Fedora Linux and this same "love for
> innovation" was what brought me
> into the Fedora Project world, because I personally quite like
> innovation, most if we're talking
> about computer's technology of these days...
>
>
> 2) Why should these users use fedora at all?
>
>
> I think because Fedora is the perfect mix between Technology and
> choice,
> it's free, ir's secure, it's elegant and it's capable of about
> everything because of
> it's community. If we can get more users involved into the project we
> can give a
> better service that other distros and we can have more followers that
> love fedora,
> because we have the greatest linux distribution in the world...
>
>
> 3) What about fedora drew me to it and made me want to promote it?
>
>
> My passion for innovation and the will to give the user Top Line
> software
> that is usable in their lives, For example, let me tell you an
> anecdote:
>
>
> Here at México is an organism called IEMS, this organism provides free
> High School
> Education for the mexicans and they use linux as their base system...
> Since years ago,
> they're using Mandriva for the "General" part and for the music
> session they used to use Ubuntu Studio.
>
>
> Now, Since months ago, they were having problems with Ubuntu Studio,
> one software they used to use didn't sound
> so the students weren't able to take their music class as it was
> suposed to be. Then in a Linux conference I met a Music teacher
> of ONE of these schools and called me to solve the problem because no
> one at that time was able to do it...
>
>
> I had trouble solving their problem, but at the end, my solution was
> changing Ubuntu Studio for Fedora, wich works great and now,
> what started in that ONE school, is expanding: From that day, ALL
> SCHOOLS of the IEMS organism are replacing Ubuntu Studio for
> Fedora, and the executives and bosses are in talks to standarize ALL
> computers with only one distribution: Fedora.
>
>
> Is because this stories of success I've lived with this distro I'm
> gonna continue working for it, I'm going to promote it
> and also, I'm going to support the final user who wants to use Linux
> and do not "have a headache", Because Linux is
> for everyone, but not everyone finds it as easy to use as maybe you or
> me find it.
>
>
> :)
>
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Yes, I know the solutions are:

1) Switching to Gnome

2) Stay (or downgrade in the case) to KDE 4.4

3) Wait until skype's give a solution

4) Only use 32 bit systems

I do not ask fedora to stop innovation in pro of propietary software (that's crazy) But I wanted you to know this because I 
wanted to know if there's something we can do to help the user... Anyway, let the time advances... The future will give us a veredict.

Thank's for your answers...


 
I've been investigating... is Fedora's problem, not skype... Fedora 13 does not provide a 32 bit package for the qt libraries in their "1:4.7" version, only a 64 bit one, at least
in my package manager this is what I have, and I also have a 32 bit version but it's only of the "1:4.6" release... Hope you take this in count... 

New Libraries in both architechtures seem to be present in fedora 14 and RPMFind says in Fedora 15 too.
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I've got the solution, thanks!! Now Skype is working and I have the lastest 32 Bit Qt libraries installed in my 64 bit Fedora 13 with KDE 4.5!! :D

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