----- "Larry Cafiero" <larry.cafiero@gmail.com> wrote:
> Christos makes some good observations, but Juan's is a good suggestion and I think we should accent our positives.
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> In my opinion -- and this may not be the prevailing one -- I don't believe that this should be treated as a football game where we congregate into fans waving banners and scarves -- "Go Fedora, Beat Ubuntu!" -- because I don't believe the FOSS mindset should be like that (and I hope it isn't). Nor should Ubuntu users think this way, of course, but they'll have to address that themselves.
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Sure. I totally agree.
That's why I am thinking about Fedora's advantages, NOT Ubuntu (or other distros)'s disadvantages.

> Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and Mandriva and others do -- and all should be recognized for their contributions. Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else.
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> Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu on two machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with -- and my distro of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and innovation, the camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to all of you), and the dedication of those of us involved are intangible qualities that make Fedora superior.
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> [That and our record of getting project and improvements therein upstream . . . .]
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> Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan.
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> Larry Cafiero
>
Also, thank all of you for your suggestions and ideas.
I will push and tell you back later.

Kind regards,
Tuan