- Summit will conflict with the 9/1 meeting for your moderator
*** sseiersen volunteers to moderate the 9/1 meeting ***
* Events [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents]
- Red Hat Summit Update
Sign up if you are attending and can help
Fedora dinner of some sort on the opening night if possible is
being planned. 100 lbs of stuff has been shipped ahead for the
booth. The two new retractable banners arrived today, will be
shipped on to Chicago tomorrow.
* Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget]
- inode0 mentions that we are in budget limbo for a period now waiting
for the next quarter's budget to take shape
- Max will likely be joining us more often in the future and will fill
us in on those details as they become known
- Pens arrived, sent to the Summit as well as all the regional ambassadors
djf_jeff asks about distribution of merchandise in Canada - will contact
ke4qqq to find out if he can be our "shipping center" in the north
- SFD chat and Campus Ambassador discussion as the moderator lost control
of the meeting ...
* Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks]
- No discussion
* Open Floor
- dthomasdigital thanks folks for sending SFD and NMGLF supplies his way
- Discussion of an ambassador FAD at UTOSC or elsewhere - inode0 suggests
having a focus on work that needs to be done before planning a FAD to do
it - existing work objectives should exist before a FAD is organized
- crossbytes raises questions about the FreeMedia program and how
ambassadors should deal with random contacts for FreeMedia while the
form is closed and tells people to contact ambassadors directly
I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new
ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.
(08:00:20 PM) inode0 has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call
(08:01:33 PM) ***sseiersen is here
(08:02:01 PM) crossbytes: crossbytes is here
(08:02:16 PM) inode0: congratulations crossbytes!
(08:02:23 PM) ***sseiersen wonders where everyone is...
(08:02:36 PM) inode0: you are going to have a blast in Toronto
(08:02:50 PM) dthomasdigital: here
(08:03:02 PM) crossbytes: thank you inode0
(08:03:27 PM) inode0: a cold winter blast, but :)
(08:03:52 PM) sseiersen: okey dokie
(08:04:04 PM) sseiersen: About 5 more mins for everyone to come?
(08:04:13 PM) ***djf_jeff is here
(08:04:18 PM) inode0 has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Agenda:
(08:05:05 PM) inode0: Your moderator is not feeling well tonight
(08:05:20 PM) sseiersen: Sorry to hear that.
(08:05:53 PM) inode0: Your moderator will not be attending the next
FAmNA meeting on 9/1 - busy setting up a Fedora booth in Chicago that
(08:06:08 PM) inode0: We need a volunteer to run that meeting, really need
(08:06:16 PM) ***sseiersen will do it
(08:06:24 PM) inode0: great
(08:06:54 PM) inode0: we can talk outside the meeting about any
questions you might have
(08:07:17 PM) inode0: any other announcements from anyone?
(08:07:41 PM) sseiersen: anyone?
(08:08:00 PM) inode0 has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Events:
(08:08:25 PM) inode0: StabbyMc who I note is not in attendance put the
Summit on the agenda
(08:08:53 PM) inode0: Let's start with any other events that need
attention in case he shows up
(08:09:09 PM) sseiersen: I think OLF is well covered.
(08:09:19 PM) sseiersen: UTOSC may need some work.
(08:10:27 PM) ***sseiersen sees not that many events to worry about...
(08:10:30 PM) inode0: I think we are sort of in budget limbo for a
spell now waiting for the next quarter's budget to shake out
(08:10:55 PM) ***herlo is here
(08:11:02 PM) sseiersen: herlo welcome
(08:11:05 PM) herlo: hi
(08:11:08 PM) inode0: Since StabbyMc is AWOL, I'll say a few things
about the Summit
(08:11:26 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Summit_2009
(08:11:44 PM) inode0: If you are going sign up there, especially for
booth time if you can
(08:12:16 PM) inode0: there will be a fedora dinner of some sort on 9/1
(08:12:30 PM) inode0: details aren't firm yet on where or when
(08:12:50 PM) inode0: about 100 lbs of booth supplies have been
shipped to the event
(08:13:10 PM) inode0: the two new retractable banners arrived today
and will be shipped on to Chicago tomorrow
(08:13:50 PM) ***herlo wishes he could go
(08:13:51 PM) inode0: I don't think I have anything else new to report on that
(08:15:39 PM) inode0 has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Budget:
(08:15:48 PM) inode0: we are broke
(08:16:17 PM) ***inode0 notes that was a joke
(08:16:20 PM) dthomasdigital: like everyone else
(08:16:28 PM) ***sseiersen breathes...
(08:17:03 PM) inode0: sometime after max relocates and gets settled he
will join us with budget information I'm sure
(08:17:28 PM) inode0: until then I think we're in limbo
(08:17:49 PM) inode0: although my understanding was that UTOSC
sponsorship would happen in Q3
(08:18:35 PM) inode0: longer term ambassadors should be thinking about
and working on future merchandise
(08:19:05 PM) inode0: we need new people pitching in all the time
(08:19:17 PM) inode0: as soon as we get stuff it goes out the door and
we need more
(08:19:27 PM) dthomasdigital: Did we get pens?
(08:19:34 PM) inode0: we did
(08:19:35 PM) sseiersen: Yes
(08:19:58 PM) inode0: http://rose.public.iastate.edu/pens.jpg
(08:20:07 PM) dthomasdigital: nice
(08:20:07 PM) inode0: I spilled them
(08:20:09 PM) ***herlo has a desire to order more Live Media already
(08:20:25 PM) dthomasdigital: speaking of herlo got all my stuff
(08:20:43 PM) inode0: speaking of pens, we are including them in the
Summit conference bags
(08:21:09 PM) inode0: I have shipped a couple hundred around to the
rest of the regional ambassadors
(08:21:19 PM) inode0: a couple hundred each
(08:21:32 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: where is the Canada love? ;)
(08:21:40 PM) herlo: dthomasdigital: awesome
(08:21:47 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: good question
(08:22:02 PM) djf_jeff: seriously, I wonder how I can help with
merchandise to get it in the hand of Canada Ambassadors?
(08:22:05 PM) inode0: who is our regional shipping agent in Canada? :)
(08:22:17 PM) dthomasdigital: herlo already made a care package and
shipped to eastern New Mexico They are planning a large SFD
(08:22:19 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: you just ask my question ;)
(08:22:44 PM) herlo: dthomasdigital: awesome
(08:22:52 PM) ***herlo will probably do something for SFD too
(08:22:54 PM) djf_jeff: replace ask by answered
(08:23:22 PM) dthomasdigital: We might have 4 events all over the
state this SFD, 3 are confirmed
(08:23:31 PM) ***sseiersen votes we should have an Ambassadors FAD at UTOSC
(08:23:40 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: if you'd like to be it please contact
ke4qqq about how the shipping stuff works and see if we can add you
(08:24:25 PM) inode0: two simultaneous conversations weren't enough?
(08:24:43 PM) ***sseiersen makes it 3
(08:24:44 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: sure that I will do it, I want to ease
the process to get stuff here, thanks for the pointer
(08:24:46 PM) inode0: are we finished with SFD and shipping?
(08:25:03 PM) dthomasdigital: sorry, yes
(08:25:19 PM) inode0: Let's talk about an ambassador FAD then, I have
a few comments on that
(08:25:44 PM) inode0: First, don't just have one to have one
(08:26:04 PM) inode0: FADs should be motivated by work needing to be done
(08:26:09 PM) inode0: Have the work in mind first
(08:26:24 PM) sseiersen: Ambassador kits need to be put together
(08:26:39 PM) inode0: they do?
(08:26:51 PM) sseiersen: I belive so, not sure.
(08:27:19 PM) inode0: ambassador kits are slapped together as needed
by the people shipping them
(08:27:25 PM) sseiersen: hmm
(08:27:42 PM) inode0: given how fast media changes we can't really
make them in advance
(08:27:51 PM) ***sseiersen scratches the FAAD idea off his list...
(08:27:57 PM) inode0: No
(08:28:02 PM) inode0: don't scratch it off
(08:28:20 PM) inode0: Just focus on work first, what can be
accomplished, specific tasks
(08:28:35 PM) sseiersen: Well, I'm sure we'll find something to do
(08:28:41 PM) inode0: Then get the people who can make it happen
together, if they are UTOSC that is great
(08:28:41 PM) sseiersen: Just a idea atm.
(08:29:14 PM) inode0: I really want to discourage the "we'll come up
with something" strategy
(08:29:20 PM) inode0: that part should be first :)
(08:29:52 PM) ***sseiersen has a idea is the loong back of his mind...
(08:29:54 PM) inode0: money is getting tighter, we need to spend it
wisely, have specific and useful work planned out ahead of a FAD
(08:30:17 PM) sseiersen: Campus Ambassdors planning?
(08:30:49 PM) sseiersen: Anyone want to touch on this?
(08:30:54 PM) inode0: FADs at events like UTOSC don't need to cost a
lot, and ambassadors and other contributors can always do stuff when
they get together
(08:31:27 PM) inode0: I'd like to sort of go from one topic to the next
(08:32:39 PM) inode0:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD <-- good to read
while thinking about a FAD
(08:34:04 PM) ***inode0 is done with his FAD organization speech now
... anyone else
(08:34:42 PM) sseiersen: I guess it's open floor since there is nothing else.
(08:34:49 PM) inode0: fine
(08:35:05 PM) inode0 has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Open Floor
(08:35:08 PM) sseiersen: :)
(08:35:28 PM) sseiersen: Anyone got anything?
(08:35:32 PM) dthomasdigital: Just wanted to thank all that got the
fedora 11 disk to me, should make SFD, and NMGLF very nice...thanks
again. My son loved the tattoos
(08:36:38 PM) sseiersen: do te do te do...
(08:36:41 PM) crossbytes: Have some questions about freemedia should I
bring it up here?
(08:36:49 PM) inode0: sseiersen: what about campus ambassadors do you
want to talk about?
(08:36:51 PM) sseiersen: Shoot.
(08:36:59 PM) inode0: crossbytes: let me come back to you
(08:37:05 PM) crossbytes: ok
(08:37:08 PM) sseiersen: inode0 getting it off the ground a bit more
(08:37:20 PM) sseiersen: atm we got 3 ppl.
(08:37:22 PM) inode0: talk isn't making it happen
(08:37:28 PM) inode0: we need action :)
(08:37:39 PM) sseiersen: agrees completely :]
(08:38:18 PM) ***sseiersen needs to put together a good poster for colleges...
(08:38:38 PM) inode0: mchua has joined our cause recently, we need to
give her some time but I am confident she will be a great leader for
getting this moving in the right direction
(08:39:03 PM) inode0: do it!
(08:39:16 PM) sseiersen: :]
(08:39:23 PM) ***sseiersen totally will...
(08:39:32 PM) ***sseiersen boots up Inkscape
(08:40:07 PM) inode0: I'm trying but not being very successful about
getting an announcement out regarding the CA program - nag me about it
but not tonight please :)
(08:40:22 PM) sseiersen: will do.
(08:40:32 PM) inode0: shall we go to freemedia?
(08:40:38 PM) sseiersen: yep
(08:40:41 PM) crossbytes: confusion about out of area requests that r
not through the proper requests form since the form is forwarding the
'requests' to the nearest Ambassador
(08:40:43 PM) inode0: crossbytes: you have the floor
(08:41:06 PM) inode0: yeah, we have very different opinions about those
(08:41:41 PM) inode0: I'm afraid my experience is that the ones I get
are people trying to game the system
(08:41:46 PM) inode0: and I ignore them
(08:42:07 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm ready to send to, but again not sure
of the protocol
(08:42:13 PM) inode0: others think I'm intolerably rude for that
(08:42:27 PM) ***sseiersen is about to organize a dist. day at his school...
(08:42:45 PM) inode0: I don't really want to spend my time responding
to requests from people on other continents for freemedia
(08:43:04 PM) sseiersen: inode0: it ain't rude but necessary.
(08:43:12 PM) crossbytes: I understand .. and agree shouldnt confuse
freemedia with ambassador stuff but the web page is fwoarding
(08:43:22 PM) inode0: and I don't really want to be bothered by people
on my continent trying to avoid going through the normal process
(08:43:59 PM) inode0: yeah, I said why I think that forwarding is bad
(08:43:59 PM) ***sseiersen has a bit of a rough draft of his poster...
(08:44:00 PM) crossbytes: to the nearest ambassador..and i am pretty
sure that some abassados might not even know what the freemedia is
(08:44:12 PM) inode0: they won't
(08:44:23 PM) crossbytes: excuse the spelling...
(08:44:44 PM) inode0: I'm just hoping that by next month it gets
sorted out better
(08:44:50 PM) dthomasdigital: honestly where do you go to even see who
(08:45:01 PM) sseiersen: The Trac.
(08:45:16 PM) sseiersen: https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ <<
(08:45:32 PM) crossbytes: I got a personal request because of the page
saying to contact nearest .. and he contacted me...is the trac open?
(08:45:44 PM) dthomasdigital: Thank you book marked now
(08:45:53 PM) sseiersen: Welcome.
(08:46:21 PM) inode0: https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/
(08:46:37 PM) crossbytes: sorry should have said request form open?
(08:46:57 PM) inode0: no, it isn't open. if it is someone nearby I'd
just send them what they want if you can
(08:47:23 PM) inode0: normally it opens for a few days at the
beginning of each month
(08:47:36 PM) inode0: they decided to not open it in August
(08:48:14 PM) crossbytes: ok that was all I realy wanted to know...
Ihave been getting a few requests and have been asking them how they
got my e-mail and then go from there if they even answer..
(08:48:16 PM) inode0: so there won't be anything to do until September
unless you get stray requests
(08:48:35 PM) inode0: that seems reasonable
(08:50:00 PM) ***sseiersen belives we're about done...
(08:50:24 PM) inode0: would sseiersen like to do the countdown?
(08:50:35 PM) ***sseiersen would be honored
(08:50:45 PM) sseiersen: 5...
(08:50:46 PM) sseiersen: 4
(08:50:49 PM) sseiersen: 3
(08:50:51 PM) sseiersen: 2
(08:50:53 PM) sseiersen: 1
(08:50:58 PM) sseiersen: #endmeeting
(08:51:03 PM) dthomasdigital: bye all
(08:51:06 PM) inode0: thanks everyone
I'm going to be more busy than usual the next few weeks, and therefore
this seems like a good time to try to find someone who might want to
take over the duties for the Fedora Weekly News Announcements beat, and
give it their own personal style.
If you're interested, join fedora-news-list and speak up. Total time
commitment is about 30 minutes per week.
Today, I visited IIIT, Hyderabad (Gachibowli)  and copied 50 GB of
Fedora Core (10, 11) repositories to their server for their use. I
have also given them Fedora 10, 11 DVDs.
IIIT, Hyderabad has totally 20 Mbps bandwidth from different ISPs.
Most of them use the Internet connection to install software. They are
planning to setup a public Fedora mirror.
Thanks to Gaganpreet Singh and Jinesh K J.
En octubre, Foz do Iguaçu es una vez más el lugar de celebración de la
Conferencia Latinoamericana de Software Libre - Latinoware 2009. Cerca de 4
mil personas, incluyendo estudiantes, profesionales y especialistas en las
áreas, se espera para la sexta edición del evento que se celebrará entre el
22 y 24 de octubre en el Parque Tecnológico Itaipú (PTI) en la planta
hidroeléctrica de Itaipú .
Promovido por la Fundación Itaipú Binacional del Parque Tecnológico Itaipú -
Brasil, la Companhia de Informática do Paraná (Celepar) y el Servicio
Federal de Procesamiento de Datos (Serpro), la Latinoware es un evento que
abre espacio para discusiones y reflexiones sobre el uso del Software Libre
en América Latina, y promover la integración y optimización de América
In October, Foz do Iguaçu is once again the venue of the Conference of Latin
American Free Software - Latinoware 2009. About 4 thousand people, including
students, professionals and specialists in the areas, are expected for the
sixth edition of the event to be held between 22 and 24 October in the
Itaipu Technological Park (PTI) at the hydroelectric plant of Itaipu .
Promoted by the Itaipu Binational Foundation Technology Park Itaipu -
Brazil, Companhia de Informática do Paraná (Celepar) and Federal Service of
Data Processing (Serpro), the Latinoware is an event that opens up space for
discussions and reflections on the use of Free Software in Latin America,
and promote the integration and optimization Latin America.
With Love B.A p Raman Original message From:Bhavin Joshi< bhavinjoshi19(a)gmail.com >Date: 14 Aug 09 18:11:24Subject:Re: [fedoraindia] Are there any Fedora Ambassadors around/near toJalandhar ?To: fedoraindia(a)redhat.comknow every thing about swine flu like history,symptoms,control centres etc at one place http://swineflu.7shot.comThis is junk! different subject and different content. somebody blockthis guy *Bhavin H. Joshi PortfolioDeveloper's Network * Fedoraindia mailing list Fedoraindia(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedoraindia
It's hard to say good bye, but part we must. When you love what you do,
when you love the people you get to do it with, when you love the way
you do it, there is never a good time to leave, but there is a right
time, and for me, personally and professionally, this is that right time.
I wish to reiterate my gratitude to each and every single person, which
I summed up in my email announcing my departure which will always be
In parting, it's hard to convey raw emotion as, personally, words cannot
describe how privileged I feel to have been affiliated and employed by
Red Hat and Fedora for the better part of the last decade. To be a part
of Red Hat and Fedora is to be a part of the nobility; a precious
pedigree of ideological steadfastness, technological excellence, supreme
work ethic, and above all else, the truest, kindest and most passionate
and compassionate people.
At the same time, it is awkward to be both nobility and
revolutionary--two roles which have historically been at antipodes--at
the forefront of the great re-establishment of the philosophy of
technology and how it is put into practice. This extraordinary
conundrum is what drew me to Open Source and to Red Hat and it should
serve as a constant source of both inspiration and pride for each of us,
constantly. Similar to the Gandhi quote which lines the walls of every
Red Hat office, when they said we couldn't we did, when they said we
would fail, we succeeded, when they said we were wrong, we have and will
continue to prove ourselves right, every moment of every hour of every day.
This fierce belief in our ability to transcend and ascend to the highest
of heights and noblest of peaks is what Red Hat stands for and it is for
instilling this within me that I am thankful. It is true, and those who
doubt it, will be forever stuck in the vacuum of time as we climb ever
higher. Keep climbing, keep striving and most important keep your
faith, we are in the right place and we are winning!
Escher was right. Men step down and yet rise up, the hand is drawn by
he hand it draws, and a woman is poised on her very own shoulders.
Without us, this universe is simple, run with the regularity of a
prison. Galaxies spin along stipulated arcs, stars collapse at the
specified hour, crows U-turn south and monkeys rut on schedule. But we,
whom the cosmos shaped for a billion years to fit this place, we know it
failed. For we can reshape, reach an arm through the bars, and,
Escher-like, pull ourselves out. And while whales feeding on mackerel
are confined forever to the sea, we climb the waves, look down from clouds.
Now go tell the kids.
This is Jack, choking up and signing off.