In case you didn't read the minutes of the most recent NA Ambassadors meeting:
The NA Ambassadors meetings will have visitors over the next few
weeks. These visitors will be representatives from other projects
within Fedora. The will attempt to educate us on the specific 'Join'
process for their project as well as tasks they have that are suited
for new users. Since one of the purposes of the Ambassador project is
to recruit and foster new contributors we figured that we at least
need to be familiar with the quirks for those projects.
The first will be Máirín Duffy (mizmo) from the Art team at the
October 7 meeting at 2100 EDT (October 8, 0100 UTC) in #fedora-meeting
We already have Docs and QA/Bug Triaging lined up as well, and we will
get others lined up in the coming weeks.
We cordially invite anyone/everyone to attend this meeting regardless
of your geographic location.
Homework for NA Ambassadors:
Please go check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork and other
Art team pages BEFORE THE MEETING. Read what's there and be ready to
ask questions, particularly if something isn't clear to you.
In December 2008.
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From: "Francesco Ugolini" <fugolini(a)fedoraproject.org>
Subj: Re: [Ambassadors] Release Events Budget Preview - Last Call
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:35 am
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2008/10/2 Kam Salisbury <kam(a)kamsalisbury.com>:
> I would like to understand the budget need better so that I could do a
> small Release Party with the Philly Linux Meet-Up group.
Sorry, I missed the point. When?
Actually in order to be qualified to ask for a reimbursment you have
to organize you event in Q4.
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If you haven't already, please take a moment to add your shirt sizes
to the FADNA208 page
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008#Attendees) so I can
order the correct sizes.
I will be placing this order around noon today (PDT) and hopefully
I'll have a good number of you with shirt sizes.
A brief FYI that I'll be taking the XO to a ROCGeeks Meet-up  on
I'll be doing show and tell with the machine as well as talking about
G1G1 and the Fedora install option.
I would like to understand the budget need better so that I could do a
small Release Party with the Philly Linux Meet-Up group.
They have a venue in center city Philly so the only cost for the
aproximately 10-20 attendees would be...
$40 Snacks and sodas of some kind
$10 Blank CDR media for FD10 Live CDs (I read through all the logo
guides, am I clear to just put a small Fedora sticker type label on
$??? Shirts, stickers, hats? (I am not sure how I get these items or
if I should investigate having them locally produced)
I already have all the equipment necessary to provide a "make a
fedora-live usb" station as well as provide a demonstration platform.
I plan on giving a short presentation highlighting the major
improvements offered by the latest Fedora, say about 15 minutes in
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<AndreasR> AndreasRau is here too
<spevack> Max is here
<spevack> but a bit grumpy
<spevack> AndreasR: definitely not smiling tonight!
<fugolini> ok, no problem
<spevack> though it's great to see a big FAMSCo turnout tonight
* fugolini too
<fugolini> Meeting agenda:
<fugolini> 1. Budget status
<fugolini> 2. F10 Release Parties: owners preview review
<fugolini> 3. Meeting time and date
<fugolini> 4. Membership status
<fugolini> 5. t.b.d.
<spevack> i guess i'm first?
<spevack> since it's budget time.
<fugolini> it's your turn
<spevack> earlier this week, I sent out 4 separate budget-related emails
<spevack> to NA, SA, EMEA, and APAC/India ambassadors
<spevack> who have had events in September
<spevack> getting status reports, and collecting details to send money
<spevack> It looks like most events are coming in UNDER budget so far.
<spevack> unfortunately MrTom had some logistical problems with PCDL (I
don't blame you at all MrTom, I'm just sorry that the event wasn't
better for you!).
<spevack> other events are pretty much on track.
<spevack> So this leads to a couple of good things
<spevack> because the "general events" are staying under budget, and
because there was extra money left from FUDCon, I feel like we won't
have any funding problems for the release events
<spevack> and I also was able to offer an additional $500 to the FAD NA
<spevack> so that's about it... we're in good shape.
<spevack> any questions?
<spevack> go ahead
<fugolini> I've read your email and personally they help really
<fugolini> My question is: for Q4, will us to change something?
<fugolini> *will us have
<fugolini> Or the system could work as it is?
<fugolini> Personally I was feared by the lot of issues
<spevack> I think our general workflow is solid, and unless the rest of
FAMSCo wants to make changes, I don't anticipate doing things too much
<spevack> I am here to serve you guys!
<fugolini> spevack: thank you
<spevack> so if you have a better way or better idea, just tell me!
<fugolini> spevack: I just post an idea to track event in a way that it
would be possible to query
<fugolini> by owner, country etc
<fugolini> but we will discuss on the list
<spevack> fugolini: here is my comment, for people to think about
<spevack> the FedoraEvents page is very easy for an individual
ambassador to use and edit.
<spevack> It is also pretty easy for FAMSCo or me to look at it and see
"oh, these are the events that are coming soon"
<spevack> or "these are the events that just finished, i probably should
ask the owners if they need money"
<spevack> could it be more automated or database driven? sure.
<spevack> i think that it would also
<spevack> make it a bit harder for people to add events.
<spevack> and one thing that i have noticed
<spevack> is that even though we sent a bunch of reminders for people to
get their events on the page early
<spevack> a bunch still came in after our budget deadline.
<spevack> so if the barrier to creating an event goes up more, i am
<spevack> that peole will just ignore the workflow
<fugolini> I was moving my question just because today I was facing
difficulties trying to search for specific events
<spevack> and email famsco directly, which will cause a bigger mess.
<spevack> just a thought
<spevack> i would be interested to hear what everyone else thinks.
<fugolini> spevack: thank you
<fugolini> Anyone has comments on Budget and/or this issue?
<iWolf> I would be inclined to keep the event listing in the wiki. it
keeps the hurdle low and provides good visibility for a non-fedora
contributor to see if we are going to be in the area at a conference.
<jmbuser> I agree with keeping it on the wiki so people can easily add
<AndreasR> Okay, you are right why make it bigger... I think your
comment was very clear
<AndreasR> I didn't thought about that
<MrTom> i think editing the wiki is not that difficult. It is very easy
to understand how it works... just copy and paste. Having a webapp would
need wok again from the infrastructure team I think, and management from
someone again. EOF
<spevack> MrTom: +1 -- who's going to have time to make the webapp.
Websites and Infrastructure are already overloaded.
<fabian_a> if the events are no longer at the wiki we will be able to
reuse a single entries on the front page as an example
<spevack> fugolini: nevermind :)
<fugolini> As I said, I faced that issue wehn I'll try to get some
useful data in a really brief time
<fugolini> Probably it was my impression, but I just hate to type ctrl-f
and try to filter content
<fugolini> BTW, you are right when you say there isn't space to deploy a
<fugolini> But as FAmSCo is quite made by volunteers that use their free
time, I though it could be helpful to give them a fast way to make query
<fugolini> But sure, I don't want to annoy more with this issue, just
because probably it's something I experienced I.
<fugolini> So, just put it in the sandbox, and discuss about next, most
<fugolini> 2. F10 Release Parties
<fugolini> I just send an email with people budget preview
<spevack> I thought it was a good email, and that your suggestions made
<spevack> I think if we can keep the total bill for F10 release parties
in Q3 (so the ones that happen in November) to about $1000 USD or less,
we'll be fine.
<spevack> For the ones in December (Q4), we will deal with that in the
next budget planning round
<spevack> fugolini: and thank you very much for your owrk
<jmbuser> +1 on thanks
<fugolini> spevack: I'm trying to do my best. I have to thank you for
all the suggestions and ideas you daily give us
<spevack> fugolini: no thanks needed
<spevack> but you are welcome :)
<fugolini> So, you agree with my last mail about Release Events preview
<fugolini> just give me a minute for the adress
<spevack> let me go line by line just to be sure
<spevack> Bangladesh, $100-$150
<spevack> Thessaloniki, $100-$150
<spevack> Milan: 150-$200
<spevack> yeah, agreed
<spevack> Maybe give Bangladesh $200
<fugolini> All agree?
<spevack> it won't really matter, and they don't ask for much
<spevack> let's give them what they want.
<spevack> So I would say:
<spevack> Bangladesh/Milan: $200
<spevack> Thessaloniki: up to $150
<spevack> i think there's enough money floating around the north
american pot to take care of all their needs.
<spevack> and I'll be in contact with those guys anyway.
<fugolini> spevack: that's what I need to know
<spevack> fugolini: i think we're in good shape. No bad feelings or
<fugolini> That make me happy
<fugolini> Any question, suggestion, critic or whateverelse?
<iWolf> none from me
<fugolini> Ok, we can move on.
<fugolini> 3. Meeting time and date
<fugolini> Take a look at this thread:
<fugolini> After a discussion, it seems people agreed to hold
<fugolini> the meeting on Thursday at 19.00 UTC
<fugolini> just take a look at timesanddates.com
<fugolini> maybe it's not the correct adress but it sounds like this
<fugolini> Any question?
<spevack> is that tomorrow?
<fugolini> the next week :)
<spevack> ok, good. i'm on an airplane tomorrow, and I wanted to attend :)
<fugolini> enjoy the travel
<spevack> if they have power plug in the seat, i will. ;)
<MrTom> it ok for me on thursday evening
<fugolini> I tried to figure out, as Fabian suggest, the perfect time
from the Calendar page at /Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meeting
<iWolf> thursdays are intermittent for me as it conflicts with a $dayjob
meeting every other week.
<fugolini> iWolf: that's a problem, could you suggest an alternative?
<iWolf> this Wednesday time generally seems to work well for me. :)
<AndreasR> one week Wednesday the other Thursday
<fabian_a> for me it will not work before 20.00 utc, sorry
<fugolini> fabian_a: the main problem is that with summertime, starting
from october the 6th
<fugolini> I'll have to wake up really early
<fugolini> I don't knwo when we will start reusing sunlight time
<fabian_a> i know
<fugolini> but with sunlight time 20.00 UTC is ok
<spevack> fugolini: not until november
<spevack> do the clocks change
<spevack> or end of october
<spevack> a few weeks
<fabian_a> fugolini: this is 22.00 cest
<fugolini> fabian_a: for next week I could try, but I can be clearminded
<fugolini> but to have a clear mind I need to sleep some time
<fugolini> I have to wake up at 3.30 UTC
<fabian_a> fugolini: won't worry we will find a way that works for everybody
<fugolini> fabian_a: ok, I'll try to stay up
<fugolini> maybe sleeping before and after that time
<jmbuser> Wednesdays are my weekend, but doable for me
<jmbuser> Fridays through Tuesdays are not good - Thursday is best
<fugolini> I think we could alternate meeting, making him once on
Wednesday and once on Thursday
<fugolini> It's ok?
<MrTom> why not yes !
<fabian_a> fugolini: that's definitely not an option...sleeping before
and after the meeting
<fabian_a> sure, let's switch the days
<fugolini> fabian_a: sorry i missed the point
<fugolini> do you agree with my idea?
<fugolini> Ok, so the motion is accepted
<fugolini> Next item: 4. Membership status
<fugolini> I want to thank kital for the work he has done
<fugolini> during this week we have all experienced the new membership
<fugolini> I'm referring to the Ambassadors List welcome
<fugolini> but, at the root, the work is going in the right way. Joerg
(kital) is updating us about what is happening and that help us a lot
<fugolini> I think that's all.
<fugolini> Questions, comments or whatever else?
<AndreasR> thanks kital
<fugolini> Any question?
* kital hears that ;)
<AndreasR> no :)
<fugolini> ok, someone has a topic to discuss?
<fugolini> Tomorrow or maybe later this week I'll write an email to FAD
<fugolini> I can't be there.
<fugolini> I'm not sure if someone from FAmSCo could be there
<spevack> iWolf will be there
<fugolini> will you be there?
<jmbuser> I can be there
<fugolini> So, great. I'll send you the email, along with jmbuser
<fugolini> It's one of the most important Ambassadors-related event this
year. We will have a FAD EMEA too
<GeroldKa> Re: [Famsco-list] EMEA - NA meeting
<GeroldKa> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for
<GeroldKa> The reason it is being held:
<GeroldKa> Post by non-member to a members-only list
<GeroldKa> sorry :-(
<fugolini> GeroldKa: i'll check
<fugolini> GeroldKa: give me the time to access administrative interface
and I'll check it
<fugolini> BTW, fortunately I could join FAD EMEA
<fugolini> jmbuser, iWolf you will be the voice of FAmSCo there
<GeroldKa> for a Pizza Spaghetti ...
<GeroldKa> we will love it :-)
<fugolini> GeroldKa: yeah
<AndreasR> .. there is a place for you reserved... and I am doing the
<fugolini> Ok, anything else?
<fugolini> What GeroldKa paste, it's the proposal to hold a common
meeting with EMEA and NA to discuss about
<fugolini> certain topic
<fugolini> I personally happy to see this initiative
<fugolini> proposed by NA Ambassadors
<fugolini> I hope to be able to solve the technical issue
<fugolini> Ok, i'm starting meeting count down.
<spevack> thank you fugolini
<iWolf> fugolini: thanks!
<fugolini> == Meeting adjourned ==
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Fedora always leads and never follows.
I have asked for some help with DVD's which i want to distribute about 300
DVD's among more then 5 collages and universities.
Still now there is no reply from any one and no one is showing interest in
this. If any body is out there who can help me then please contact
I dont need all DVD's from one person but if you can contribute just 5 r 10
that's even enough. Im trying to manage some of them by my self and im goign
to able to manage 100 or 150 by my self but there are still a lot remaing.
So i ask for your help once again.
Rashadul Islam led the meeting.
* Lengthy discussion regarding recruiting new contributors for
Fedora. Out of this discussion a suggestion was made to invite members
of the various projects within Fedora to briefly discuss their project
as well as what there current needs are in the realm of new
contributors to the Fedora Ambassadors so we can better understand
what they do and how to help them. Next week a member of the Art Team
will be invited.
* Current status of tasks
- Ambassador Polo's second Round orders have shipped with the
exception of Santosh Kumar. If you are or know this Ambassador please
have him contact pascal with his shipping address.
- FADNA2008 Updates. Discussions about actively including remote users
who are not able to attend. Currently audio only due to time
constraints. Other discussions were about some swag for the event,
food and activities.
Thanks to all the participants@