Hi everybody, I gave yesterday evening a presentation of the Fedora
Project thanks to Aurelien Bompart's slides. This was my first
experience in presenting the Project publicly, as if it was a kind of
It happened during the monthly LUG meeting called "Les Mardis du
Libre" (Free Tuedays). About 15 people were attending, regular ones
-with their very good knowloedge of the open-source movement- and new
ones as well.
Some regular ones, essentially gentoo and debian users, were constantly
attacking me gentily about some aspects of the distribution :
Fedora and Red Hat : Beeing with Red Hat is a bad thing from their point
of view, because fedora is controlled by RH and is not independant.
I kept on telling them it is a good thing because of the support,
infrastructure, development, money, guidelines (...) RH is giving to
Fedora. They were hard to convinced on this topic. They were arguing
that Debian was surviving thanks to its ideas and ideals, but one of
them told that there were a lot of money on Debian bank accounts as
They were as well very doubtless about the fact that Fedora is including
bleeding edge technologies and still remains stable AND easy to use. I
could only tell them to try Fedora :)
During an explanation about Core and Extras and about the duplication
apps moving to Extras, Someone asked me if KDE would one day be slipped
into Extras. I said "probably, or probably not, the question is still
Well i knew most of the guys that were there, they were testing me
harshly and teasing me a lot, even if their questions sometinmes were
really good questions about the distro and the way we work.
Fedora might not have a booth as .org (here in Strasbourg, France), great !!!!
After more than two hours of discussion (on thursday night) with local
LUGs members about Fedora's presence as an organization, it might
happened that I can't convince my lugs members (and myself). I WAS
introduced to the Fedora Project.
It all started with :
(which I haven't read before)
versus the initial objectives of the Fedora Project.
Below are some of the topics discussed, please don't try to fool me
around with URLS.
I've already made myself a fool today, (thanks) and if there's no
CONCRETE information given to Fedora Ambassadors, personally The
Fedora Ambassador project needs to be revised.
I've nothing against with Red Hat but instead I feel that Fedora is
making a fool out of us, free contributors.
KDE will be Extras soon for the release of Fedora Core 7, according to
Really unleash isn't the right word here, it sounds like DUMPING KDE.
The Fedora Project is a community driven project, sponsored by Red
Hat. But here, it shows clearly that there are 2 groups, Red Hat and
Community. In this wiki page, there's a lot of 'Red Hat's.
To answer this Q1, I've listed the authors on this wiki page :
RahulSundaram : (starter) Red Hat
Rex Dieter : Community
PatrickBarnes : Community, I guess from my private chat on IRC with him.
Fedora Ambassadors are requested to stay neutral concerning KDE and
GNOME. It is clear that moving KDE from Core to Extras this is not
It doesn't make any difference because anaconda will have integrated
features to choose Extras packages during the Install.
Fedora will turn out to be like Ubuntu, where there will be paid
developpers from Canonical to work on gnome.
And also this contradicts greg's words on the Umeet Conference:
@gregdek * And Fedora Ambassadors, in which we encourage individuals
to be advocates for Fedora, Linux and open source in their
communities, and to whom we provide as much support as we can in doing
This means that we, the community and Fedora ambassadors, shall
advocate KDE with Fedora, since there sounds like to be a division
between Red Hat and Community.
Ambassadors were once told in the Ambassador wiki page to redirect any
discussions concerning RedHat towards RedHat representatives.
This statement is not longer available on the wiki. Why ?
#002 -- #004 TO BE CONTINUED !!
Just to end (for today), how can the community help the project if
event organizers such as Linuxtag (Wiesbaden) does not consider Fedora
as an organisation ? It's true that now, Mac's email is supporting
I'll like to have a bit of help to receive a set of DVD iso and a set
of CD isos of FC5 so I can replicate those on my own for local
distribution at my talks, I did downloaded a DVD iso but that was with
a broken SHA1SUM so can not be relied upon.
I am located in India > Punjab , full address is as below, please post
in response here before you post those to me so that we don't see
un-necessary copies being sent to me.
416, St. No.2, Sunder Nagri,
Abohar (Punjab) 152116
This is to follow up on the announce of my talk earlier. this was
delivered in presence of some 300+ audience at DAVIET, Jalandhar
There is an Fedora Install fest due ahead on April 11th at DAVIET, Jalandhar.
On 4/4/06, Kevin Verma <kevinverma(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> This is to inform you all that I've been invited to give a
> talk/presentation about Fedora at Subjected event, its starting today
> and runs till tomorrow (4th - 5th April)
> Fedora Talk is tomorrow on 5th of April, the organizers seems a bit
> running it all on a very short notice so there is a web site but not
> much detail of the event, you might like to check that out:
> I'll report how it goes, but maybe I should prepare the presentation first :)
As I said yesterday, I gave a 15 min speed talk at My Lug (The Bangalore
LUG) on the new Fedora Core 5.
The wiki page upload is cursed, and everytime I try to upload my slides,
my router gets disconnected, or my power goes, so I will upload them
For now, you can get some photos.
All photos of the whole meet here:
A Photo of Me, with my talk is here:
In particular, during my talk, I stressed on how Fedora Core 5 has
dramatically improved for the Laptop.
The photo of the demo I gave is here:
And apart from this, the slides will be up soon.
The talk itself was aimed to help train *speakers* in my lug. Sort of
Like American Idol style.
At the end, I was told that I gave my talk a bit too fast, so that is
something I need to work on.
PS: These Guys are the Local Gentoo Fanatics, watch out for them ;)
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I'm a professor at two universities in Salvador/BA, Brazil.
Responsible for two Fedora Core Linux Labs, one in each university. We
have a free software group in both universities, and I do my best to
spread Fedora Project. And I teach a course denominated Operating
System Administration, in which Fedora Core Linux is the main subject.
Soon, we'll have a national free software festival and I'll surely
talk about Fedora.
By the way, I'm in the Free Media Project and I have a suggestion for
the ambassadors that do it too: we need a design to put in the DVD
labels and boxes that we send. An amateur design may compromise Fedora
Project. If we already have it, please tell me how to get it.
Othon Batista (othonbatista(a)gmail.com)
Computer Science MSc
We have in zabrze a club for children, they paint and do homowork in it.
I want to learn children about linux but they dont have money for buy a
computer for them, I look for same people who want to give a money for 5
or 6 computers do you now any sponosrs who can be interested in??