fedora desktop / cloud integration

Mo Morsi mmorsi at redhat.com
Wed Oct 24 16:50:28 UTC 2012


On 10/24/2012 12:13 PM, Matt Wagner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:13:28AM -0400, Matt Wagner wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:47:30AM -0400, Mo Morsi wrote:
>>> At today's Fedora Cloud SIG meeting, we discussed something akin to this
>>> [1] but for cloud instances. Deltacloud [2] could be used to manage
>>> connections to different clouds and we can provide a simple gui dialog
>>> to configure providers. This would simplify the Fedora desktop / cloud
>>> integration experience and make deploying to the cloud from Fedora
>>> completely seamless.
>> This is interesting. (Though honestly it just looks to be a prettier
>> version of virt-manager?)
>>
>> It would be pretty nifty to add Deltacloud support, as you say. Or maybe
>> Aeolus support. Right now Aeolus feels like it's more targeted at
>> enterprise users, but I'm not sure it has to be. It could be a really
>> awesome way to manage a couple of cloud deployments, whether it's
>> hosting your website or running something compute-intensive.
> Huh, you know, after I sent that, I got thinking some more about how I
> would want to use it. I'm sending this to aeolus-devel only, because I
> think this is really more about Conductor (and/or Winged Monkey).
>
> For about a year and a half, I've been paying for a VM at a local
> hosting provider, to host my websites and a few other things. (They
> don't actually provide any management access, but just for the sake of
> making the example work, let's pretend they use OpenStack.) I also like
> to spin up cloud instances for tinkering with stuff.
>
> So here are some stories to consider. Note that I'm thinking of these as
> something I'd use Conductor for, either via Winged Monkey or via "Boxes"
> connecting to Conductor.


I still would just like to target this at Deltacloud right now. We can
add gnome-shell-plugins for the other Aeolus components outside of this.
But deltacloud can be done now and shown quickly.

>
> - I have a running instance hosting my website. I want to click on it,
>   select "Backup," and have a snapshot made of it, either locally or on
>   the remote cloud provider's storage.


Deltacloud + Gnome-shell (runs on Fedora / Ubuntu / Windows) + Snap
(https://github.com/movitto/snap)

Equals being able to take a snapshot of any operating system and any
environment and move it to and from the cloud.

I'm not saying we integrate snap in anytime soon (its proven to work but
I still need to add it to the aeolus-incubator) but If that isn't huge I
don't know what is.



> <snip>
>
> I'd love to see this stuff make it into Conductor. But I wonder if the
> nebulous (pun intended!) "Winged Monkey" concept is a place to play
> around with some of these ideas, too.
>
> Sorry for the fact that this is quite orthogonal to the original topic.
> :-[

It's fine, think this is all good though on a related note I think we
should be working closer w/ our customers and current users to find out
exactly what they like / dislike about the software and ecosystem, in
addition to trying to find new users / grow the community.

   -Mo



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